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12 month old in Catch 22 situation, please help

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AngeChica · 27/01/2009 11:09

My DS is 1 year old this week. He has never been a brilliant sleeper but we did have a window from about 6 months on when he would vaguely sleep through with the aid of a dream feed at our bedtime. He had seemed to get the hang of self settling but then lost it again when anxiety kicked in and I would say for the past 3 months has woken several times a night.

DS eats well and we try to give him fresh air and active days so he is properly tired at night but it doens't seem to make much difference.

Bedtime is never a problem - we have a good routine - either of us can pop him in his cot and he goes off to sleep without a peep. Same for his daytime naps (although it took a long time to achieve this....). It's just the frequent night waking that I find hard to deal with particularly on work nights. I actually feel more tired than when he was little and I was BF (cos I think the BF hormones keep you more chilled out about it).

He will wake at about 11-12 - I will give him some milk and change him. This seems to help him go through for another 3 or 4 hours and he would wake a lot more frequently otherwise. I try not to interact too much or cuddle him but just lay him down & maybe place a hand on him. Recently he is becoming more wakeful and will stand up repeatedly and throw his dummy and comforter out of the cot. I have to keep replacing these because he eventually will need them to settle.

I have done a couple of experiments with controlled crying which I hated, and he will go off to sleep but if he wakes again at 3 or 4am I find it very difficult to muster up the will to do it again at that time of night. We spend half the night on a mattress in his room as it is easier to jump up and resettle him if he keeps getting up.

For some reason I find it hard to relax and sleep if we bring him in to our bed - I worry he will wake up if I am too deeply asleep and crawl off the bed!

DH has to get up at 5.45 on weekdays. I'm back at work albeit part time so the burden of the broken nights is mainly on me though DH does do a weekend night to try and help me catch up on some sleep.

Neither of us are coping very well with the broken sleep. I worry it is affecting our relationship as I get tearful when I'm overtired and DH can't deal with that very well. He also thinks it would be a bad idea to have any more kids because we don't deal with lack of sleep well.

I feel guilty that sometimes I am so tired I haven't got the energy to play with DS or pay him enough attention and that makes me feel like a crap mum who perhaps shouldn't have any more kids even though the thought of DS being an only child makes me so sad .

I read about good sleepers / bad sleepers on here, and people getting het up about CC or not to CC. I know there's probably no magic solution to this but if anyone has any ideas I'd be glad to hear them because I'm at my wits end about this now.

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Lilyloo · 27/01/2009 11:19

Ange you know you have my sympathys.

Have you tried a clip to attach his dummy to his babygrow ??

What is his comforter ?

Could you put a couple of them in his cot ?

Also i wouldn't sleep on the mattress in his room. Even if it's broken sleep you will slepp better in your own bed all night. Also he may wake looking for you if he expects you to be there iyswim.

Lilyloo · 27/01/2009 11:24

Would it disturb him less if you didn't change him also?

trixymalixy · 27/01/2009 11:31

I wouldn't change him in the middle of the night either.

He sounds like my DS who was perfectly able to self settle, but woke a couple of times a night until he was 18 months and he just started sleeping through one night without us doing anything.

It is so hard having too little sleep and you have my sympathy. I don't really know what to suggest as I'm not a fan of CC either.

simpson · 27/01/2009 11:38

Ange ((hugs))

Would definately 2nd the attaching soother to his baby grow.

Does he wear a sleeping bag? It might be worth putting him in one so he doesn't/can't stand up.

Also I wouldn't change bum unless you have to. DD is on size 4 in the day and size 5 at night so I don't have to do this (unless poo of course!!)

AngeChica · 27/01/2009 11:51

If he has another bottle in the night I do feel I have to change him as his nappy gets reallY fat and full otherwise.

He is in a grobag but it doesn't stop him being able to stand up in it .

I will try the dummy clip.

thanks ladies x

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trixymalixy · 27/01/2009 11:58

Modern nappies are designed for them to go all night though, I fed my Ds when he woke in the night 2 or 3 times, but the nappy never leaked.

Lilyloo · 27/01/2009 12:19

Ange even if his nappy is full it should hold the contents until morning.

It's just that even when dd wakes for her feed it is all done in the dark with minimal fuss.
Just wonder if the change and the cold air etc makes him more alert than he would be.

trixymalixy · 27/01/2009 12:32

How many naps is he having during the day?

My DS moved to one afternoon nap at around this age.

ELM · 27/01/2009 12:39

Hi Ange,

We had a similiar thing with DS. He didn't sleep through the night until he was well past 18 months, which was rerally hard as I went back to work, and DP was working shifts. I tried controlled crying because we were deperate and found it worked for us.
We completely cut out night feeds, as we were giving him milk to get him to go back to sleep.
When he woke up we checked him immediately to make sure he was not sick, stuck etc.
We then let him cry for 2 minutes, before going in and settling him without talking. We then extended the period of time by 2 minutes each time until he eventually gave up and fell asleep.
It was very hard work, and IME it took both of us to be committed and fully awake, otherwise we would cave in. It took about 3 nights to work, but it did work for us.
Since then if he has started a routine of waking at night (for example after he has completely recovered from a cold) we would do it again.

I know a lot of MNers are against controlled crying, I can only say it worked for us when we were deperate!!

ELM · 27/01/2009 12:42

And you are not a crap Mum!! Sleep deprivation is horrible and really difficult. Whatever you decide to do I hope it gets better for you.

Milsy · 27/01/2009 16:45

Hi AngeChica,

It sounds like you are trying lots of different things which I understand. Anything to get some sleep! But it's best to choose one solution that works for you and stick with it.

If he can self settle when you first put him down then I'm sure he could do it again. But he has come to rely on you to provide different props when he wakes at night. Have you heard about the Sleepytot Baby Comforter ? This might be worth a try as you can put your son's dummies on it. It may be that he gets so used to using this, he doesn't fully awake from his sleep cycles. That worked for us. My ds would just reach out for his comforter, find his dummy and fall back to sleep so he never fully woke.

Sometimes it's something as simple as that. Also - check his daytime sleep - is it too much or too little? Too little could cause him to be overtired so he wakes more at night.

Rather than CC, I've heard other people on here talk about the gradual retreat and that might work - if you did it every time he woke, he would come to learn to go back to sleep on his own without calling for you.

Good luck. x

nolongerchunkybutstillapudding · 11/02/2009 20:57

Hey Angechica...

my ds has become a crazy person at night again too, he's never been a great sleeper (quite rubbish in fact) but lately we seem to have regressed somewhat

he is INSISTING on milk at anytime from 4, sometimes tries for it earlier but if he wakes after 4 there is no fobbing him off with water/patting/anything at all. he wants the milk.

have actually just decided that if that's what he wants then I'm gonna go with it for now... i am not interested in cc either although i know it's been a lifesaver for some - just not right for me or ds.

if it makes you feel any better, my ds has also decided to be a nightmare when i'm settling him for the past few days too - it's horrible! hope your lo doesn't start on that too. am also working part time and it is soooo tiring.

i know this post doesn't offer much advice but just wanted to say that maybe 1 year olds have some bonkers growth/developmental spurt that messes up sleep, and to let you know that you are not alone!

also milsy are you by any chance on comission from sleepytots or is the comforter just that brilliant? you have posted about it a lot! but then maybe if it has been such a help to you then you'd want to tell others...

xx pudding

nolongerchunkybutstillapudding · 11/02/2009 20:58

ps

i am also a crap mum - at least that is how it feels from about 6pm-7am at the mo.

big hugs xxxx

Espoo · 13/02/2009 06:43

Hiya

My one year has also gone bonkers with sleep too. Not a great sleeper to begin with but blimey now she is up every couple of hours.
I am hoping nolongerchunky is right and it is just some crazy thing that happens at about a year. Fingers crossed and big hugs to you.

braid · 13/02/2009 10:19

Sympathies.I had a crisis with my little one recently. Sleep deprivation and searching madly for a solution is torture. My now 11 month ds was waking for couple of hours in the night and staying awake - on top of frequent feeds etc.

I tried the cc approach and it didnt' work for me. I think there were a few reasons but ds got more anxious about bedtime and the cot so I felt it was counter-productive. I've since really concentrated on getting him enought sleep in the day and therefore enough food. Making sure he goes into his cot awake. And now making sure I don't feed him in the night. I'm staying by the cot for him and if he doesn't start sleep through without the night feeds I will start to do gradual withdrawal.

I've read books galore and they do tend to say the same things, Your child will wake in the night if they get in the habit of looking for something: the place they fell asleep (your arms for example), or the feed you give them, or your presence when they go to sleep.

My wee man is still waking but it feels better because I've got a plan of action and I'm hoping we will get there. I'm also working with a sleep specialist called Andrea Grace. I'm only on day 3 with her but so far so good. (I liked her book best)

Hope you find your solution. I've also been keeping a diary because it helps to see what is happening and any (even if tiny) improvement. DS is now waking very breifly a couple of times in the night and settling with me beside briefly.

Good luck. DS is my third child. It does get easier I tell myself. And a little while can make a huge difference.

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