I give up. I submit. DS2, you've won, now will you please go to sleep!

[MissVictoriaNSqualor]

I am so fecking tired today.
Both Dd&DS1 slept through within weeks.

DS2 is now 21weeks and will not sleep.

We were co-sleeping, well, sidecar, but I've just moved him into his own bedroom as he is going in his own room when we move house next week and I wanted him to be used to being alone before we moved to a strange house.

Up until about 12 weeks he slept from 9pm til 8/9am, with only one feed at 4am.

Now he is awake every hour. I'm shattered. I spent most of last night just sitting sobbing in his room praying for him to go back to sleep.

I can't do the 'sleep when he sleeps' thing as I also have a three year old and seven year old and as of next week will be having to leave the house at 8:30am/11:15am/3:00pm to do the school pick up/drop offs, so any sleep I get would have to be based around that. I can't/won't ask DP for help during the week as he is currently in his second month of training for the police force so needs all the sleep he can get, plus I'm too tired to even think about expressing so he couldn't feed the baby anyway.

Someone tell me what to do to get him sleeping, please!

Oh, would try giving water but don't see the point as he doesn't always want a feed, just someone there awake with him.

How was your night MissyV?

andiem . When you stopped bf, did you do it cold turkey, or did you cut out night feeds/ day feeds first?

I do think getting up at the same time each day really helps with naps.

I feel now that babies just settle in their own time, and may have phases of good or bad sleeping. You can just do sensible things like regular naps/meals/sleep routines and wait it out. Hope I'm not waiting too much longer.

latrucha I did a gradual decline by stopping mid morning and mid afternoon first then first thing in the morning and then finally last thing at night and in the night I did together cold turkey it was fine
he needed a drink of milk in the night for the first couple of weeks then we swapped to water and now he mostly sleeps through

nice to hear. I want to phase it out over the next two or three months but don't want it to be upsetting to me or her.

I was the same I just couldn't do cc but I knew I wanted to stop bf so it worked for us
there was 1 night when dh was away and he started crying when I tried to give him the cup and pulling at my pjs it was sooo hard not to just give in but I didn't and after that one time he was fine

I felt a little wrench with the 'tugging at the pyjamas'. I hope I can be as firm as you!

OMG!!

He slept from about 8:45 (when he was finally settled) to

yipeeeee vs now that is a copable night

I know latrucha even typing it makes me and it was a couple of months ago

HOOOOOOOOOOORAYYYYYYYY!

What did you do differently? Or was it a fluke? We had an awful night with, I think, tummy trouble.

All that was different was his afternoon nap and going to bed earlier.

Normally if he hadn't had a nap there is no way I would put him down at 4pm.

I didn't even start reading this thread until 3pm and thought I'd try giving him an afternoon nap and hey presto.(probably fluke but I don't care right now! I got sleep!!)

Also he normally doesn't go to bed until he is falling asleep, which is about 9pm, but we put him up an hour earlier (would have been earlier but his 4pm nap took 45 minutes to get him to sleep!) and used PUPD to make him get himself to sleep.

We found that once DD had regular naps she wanted to go to bed earlier and earlier. So far has come down from 8.40 (she is quite precise!) to 7.10. I think it will come down further.

DH and I now have dinner together. Yay!

Question ladies - What is pupd?

Pick Up Put Down.
Basically if they start to cry you go in, pick them up, calm them and put them straight back down, if they start to cry on the way down you touch the mattress with them and put them back down again.
Pretty similar to rapid return for toddlers, just keep calming them down and returning them to bed.
He wasn't ready for a nap when I tried putting him down at 11 so finally went to sleep at about 12noon.

Thanks, sorry should have guessed that. It was what we did with DS when he was little. I'm sure the pregnancy hormones have completely fried my brain this time round