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9 year old sleep issues

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Squaffle · 14/09/2025 09:10

9 year old DD has always been an excellent sleeper until earlier this year. We’re having trouble with a very rigid mindset which we can’t seem to shift.

During the school week she is in breakfast club early every day, we’re out of the house by 7:40am and I wake her at 7am. She’s usually fast asleep or dozing when I go in.

On weekdays she likes to go to bed at 7:30pm, she doesn’t need to go that early but she refuses to change the time. That means she lies awake and gets upset that she can’t get to sleep. Refuses to read, listen to audiobooks or play in her room. If we’re doing anything that leads to a later night, even something really fun, she gets extremely distressed and would rather not go (we still go, of course).

On Friday and Saturday nights she gets very upset because I’m not waking her up the next day. As the week goes on she gets more and more emotional about it. I have explained that whilst we don’t tend to lie in, our bodies and brains work hard during the week so weekends are not a time for alarm clocks. Once she wakes up there’s less than 30 seconds before I’m in her room, it’s not as though she’s left alone for any length of time.

The only nights she will sleep happily is one night a week when I let her sleep with me, we agreed to one night as otherwise she’d be in there all the time. I wouldn’t mind (anything for an easy life/not going to last forever etc) but DH does. On this night there is zero fuss, she goes to sleep in seconds and wakes up happy.

This has been made worse by the loss of our dearly loved family pet in the summer holidays, and DH working away temporarily so only home Fri/Sat eves. We’ve started a reward chart to work towards something she really wants and it helped a lot during the week, but Friday and last night she was very upset again and ended up going to sleep after 10pm. That leaves no time to chill before going to bed myself.

Bedtime routine always the same: screen time stops hours before bedtime, bath, reading a book together etc.

Reading this back I can see a lot of people will prob respond to say she sounds neurodiverse, and maybe that’s possible (no signs apparent during the day or at school) but even if she was, the problem would still exist! Any advice much appreciated.

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RandomMess · 14/09/2025 17:17

I would consider a cat tbh, a bedtime companion.

Iloveeverycat · 14/09/2025 17:20

I am sorry your DH isn't on board with you. I had 4 DC that had periods of not sleeping even at the same age as your DD. We did what we had to do. We had a makeshift bed next to ours on the floor. They just just came in and went straight to sleep.

LapinR0se · 14/09/2025 20:06

i would be concerned about the rigidity and black & white thinking. Does she have this behaviour around anything else or is it just sleep

Squaffle · 14/09/2025 20:55

RandomMess · 14/09/2025 17:17

I would consider a cat tbh, a bedtime companion.

Sadly ours died in the summer, but she wouldn’t let him sleep with her as he was too naughty. Maybe the next one!

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Squaffle · 14/09/2025 20:56

Iloveeverycat · 14/09/2025 17:20

I am sorry your DH isn't on board with you. I had 4 DC that had periods of not sleeping even at the same age as your DD. We did what we had to do. We had a makeshift bed next to ours on the floor. They just just came in and went straight to sleep.

I’ll keep working on him, I think she’d be totally happy on a mattress on the floor in our room but he doesn’t agree. She may reconsider when he starts snoring though…

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Squaffle · 14/09/2025 21:03

LapinR0se · 14/09/2025 20:06

i would be concerned about the rigidity and black & white thinking. Does she have this behaviour around anything else or is it just sleep

Just sleep really, she’s always liked routine and it’s been easy to keep to one as she’s an only child. She hates knowing the time in the evenings incase it’s past bedtime, and again on weekend mornings incase she wakes up “late” as per her own definition of late. We had no clocks in/near her room for years, now she insists on wearing a watch to bed so that she can check the time when she wakes up.

I’ve been making sure to talk to her during the daytime whenever either of the above happen, e.g. “you woke up at X and nothing bad happened, it had no impact on the rest of your day” etc, but she can’t get herself back in that headspace once she starts getting upset.

Today she was so overtired it was a long slog to bedtime, she will not nap during the day, appears to still be awake now but not fussing at least.

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LapinR0se · 15/09/2025 16:36

I don't mean to be alarmist but this is really very unusual. I wonder if it is a type of OCD? I would also not expect a 9 year old to nap.
I would be trying to get some professional help to break the rigid thinking and obsession about time.

Squaffle · 15/09/2025 16:53

LapinR0se · 15/09/2025 16:36

I don't mean to be alarmist but this is really very unusual. I wonder if it is a type of OCD? I would also not expect a 9 year old to nap.
I would be trying to get some professional help to break the rigid thinking and obsession about time.

Sorry, I meant she really could have done with a nap yesterday as she was so overtired from being up crying on Saturday: definitely not wanting/expecting a nap regularly!

It could be OCD yes, I’ll look in to that further. It’s not something I know much about.

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 15/09/2025 17:04

My dd was like this. Really bad at age 9.

It didn’t go away, she slept on a bed in our room until her 13th birthday. Your Dh is not being helpful.

She was later diagnosed AUDHD.

Squaffle · 15/09/2025 17:13

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 15/09/2025 17:04

My dd was like this. Really bad at age 9.

It didn’t go away, she slept on a bed in our room until her 13th birthday. Your Dh is not being helpful.

She was later diagnosed AUDHD.

That’s really interesting, thank you for posting. Once you had her diagnosis did you find any way to help with the bedtime stuff, or did it come to a natural end when she got older?

DH working away doesn’t help the situation as he only sees a small snapshot 2 nights a week. Once he’s back I’m sure he will bend towards an easy life!

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 15/09/2025 17:32

She wasn’t diagnosed until 16 or 17.

She left our room on her 13th birthday.

Squaffle · 15/09/2025 17:42

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 15/09/2025 17:32

She wasn’t diagnosed until 16 or 17.

She left our room on her 13th birthday.

Did she choose her birthday as the date she stopped? (As that sounds like something DD would do.)

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 15/09/2025 17:45

No, l think it was just co-incidence.

Squaffle · 15/09/2025 18:13

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 15/09/2025 17:45

No, l think it was just co-incidence.

Thank you, hope she is doing ok now.

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