White noise machines

[Mummy9431]

Hey! Baby loves to sleep with the sound of rain in the background but the app we’ve been using only plays for 2 hours then she seems to wake when it stops.
can anyone recommend a white noise machine that pays rain that would stay on all night please
thanks :)

We bought this, have set it without a timer so that it plays all night, good battery life once charged, lots of different sounds, two rain sounds on there https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0B7HPNM81?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

@annlee3817 aww that’s brilliant thank you!
I like the look of this! It’s small and portable and a decent price! Thank you x

We've got the same. We use one of the other sounds, but the rain one is good and sounds authentic!

Dreamegg!

Another dream egg user! It’s brilliant!

We also love the Dreamegg. My 3 yo still uses hers and we bought a second for when the next baby came along. One has heartbeats and one has waves.

It definitely seems to be a winner!
thanks everyone. I’ve ordered one :) x

Please think about where you place it and volume. My neighbours have one on constantly at a high volume. Obviously I feel their pain and haven't commented yet as I've been there but it's definitely something to consider.

I have just read on google that white noise could be dangerous if prolonged.

There is a train of thought that might help those suffering from tinnitus, but it can cause it in others. If prolonged, the brain gets used to it and it ceases to be effective, and may cause other problems.

Medical advice should always be taught.

Just a thought.

Have you looked up the effects of white noise on the internet?

I was always so scared of using white noise, and then I had a baby in the heatwave and now he loves to sleep with the fan on in the background 😅

Can I ask how you know baby likes this?

I have tinnitus and would really dislike white noise playing all night long, so never used it!

I do feel for you. It is one of the worse conditions. I assume you have tried all sorts to block out the noise? Sometimes blocking the ears works, or ear drops for wax - the best kind are expensive, but may be worth it. It usually starts when the brain starts concentrating on the noise, and then cannot rid the mind of it.

The body's balance mechanism is in the ear, so you must also suffer from vertigo now and then?

There is a constant 'humming noise in my area. I am assured that the same humming noise is in many areas around the country. It is like some sort of machinery left on. No one seems to be able to account for it. Apparently it is in the atmosphere and could be anything, at least that was what was on google before Ai.

I didn't know anything about babies and white noise until I clicked on the mumsnet bargarn email. I was horrified that anyone could even subject a baby to a continuous noise, yet alone invent and sell something like that.

The most serious side of this is that the baby may have something wrong physically if he/she cannot sleep. I have heard of recordings of mothers' heartbeat for the new born, which I think is acceptable.

Also, if a baby cannot rest or sleep and is irritable, the mother should pick the baby up, especially if it could be that the baby needs comfort. Sometimes we do not ascribe to babies something we long for ourselves - a cuddle.

I take great pains to ignore any continuous noise , because I believe if you can block it out, you will not develop tinnitus, which is an awful thing to have.

I have ceiling fans which are not too bad, but still have a noise. I keep the ceiling fan on the lowest at night.

Unless the weather is unbearably hot I turn the mobile fans off, just so my brain doesn't pick up on the sound and won't let go. I have enough disabilities to avoid another.

To subject another human being - a little baby - to a continuous noise without knowing what the consequences might be is very irresponsible.

I know I shall get shouted down by other posters for that, but that is what I think, and thought, as speech, is free.

Why would you? Do you know what effect it has on a baby? It might make your baby sleep all night and give you some rest, but does it have lasting effect?

Do we know if it produces ND in some babies? Where the cause of NDs is not known, should we wade in where angels fear to tread?

Should we not be asking about research on these inventions? It could be a way of settling baby now, but for how long, and what are the consequences>

I would want to know how many mothers of children diagnosed with diseases like attention deficit and other ND conditions and whether they used white noise to settle the baby at night, wouldn't anyone?

Do people do this alot now. Never heard of such a thing before.

Singing to the baby is effective at most times. You might miss the programmes on TV, but the comfort of your voice, perhaps also reading a book, should be far more effective than white noise.

Do we know if it is connected to deafness yet, or loss of balance, because the body's balance mechanism is in the middle ear?

What is wrong with mother's voice?

Hahaha that gave me a good laugh, good one!

Parents seem to have an app for everything now. Feeding, naps, sleeping and nappy changes it ridiculous.

I agree, especially with specific white noise machines. But our bedroom was 30degrees + every night and I read that a fan oscillating in the same room as the baby can help reduce the risk of SIDS in such hot weather! He was only 8 weeks when the heatwave first hit x

I'm glad you think it funny - or not.

For the length of the pregnancy the baby gets used to the sounds and voices of those around him. They are familiar and comfortable. What is wrong with singing and reading to a baby? It is what he has experienced before he was born, not white hypnotic noise.

Why any parent would replace singing and reading/talking with white noise I just don't know. I would research what it does to babies' brains. It could be taking away the child's ability to think properly.

Mesmerized by noise? Suppose that white noise cuts in each time the growing child has to concentrate on something at school?

Is potential harm worth having a baby who doesn't cry? A baby doesn't cry for nothing. For example, nature has given babies far more hunger pain than later, because of the importance of giving food. If your baby is hungry, his pain will be far worse than yours.

The white noise may be lulling him back to sleep, but what will it do later? It isn't even as though it is a common sound.

There is a downside to everything in life - a Ying and yang effect, only I don't think with this white noise idea it is interdependent on good and bad.

What are the negatives of white noise?

White noise machines can increase the risk of noise-related hearing loss as they work on the principle of accumulated noise.

When they're played at a high volume, for a long period of time, the baby is exposed to noise which their developing ears are not designed for.

This is from the Washington Post who researched into white noise. They recommend if you must use a machine, it should not be over 60 decibels. This is from their study. More information is available on their site online.

''White noise exposure near its maximum volume is harmful in multiple ways.

Loud, extended noise exposure causes mechanical stress to inner ear sensory hair cells, inflammatory damage to their supporting structures and damage to the nerve ending to the hair cells.

This causes breakage of the tiny hairlike receptor proteins on their surface, cell death and loss of supporting cells.

Our research builds on this to show that white noise exposure in young children is even more of a concern due to its potential impact on physiological and social development.

Animal models with noise exposure between 60 and 80 decibels have shown stunted vocal development and delayed development of neurons in the auditory processing centres of the brain.

Similarly studies of children near high ambient noise like high traffic, train or plane noise have been linked to negative effects on sleep duration, sleep disturbances, cognitive development, behavioural issues, reading proficiency and even changed on brain imaging of regions related to language development.''