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2 year old still sleeps like a newborn

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Sunflower1650 · 02/01/2025 10:12

I’m at breaking point now. 27 months old, still breastfeeds, very clingy, goes to a childminder twice a week, still naps most days at lunchtime (around 1 hour 15mins max, often less). Sleeps in a large cot bed side carred to our bed in our room. He wakes all through the night, often hourly. Will not accept DH comforting him in the night whatsoever. Screams. Sometimes is fed back to sleep, most of the time he just sits up crying and seems really agitated so I lie him back down and he goes back to sleep but then often he’s doing the same a few mins later. It’s like he’s in pain or something but it’s been going on 2 years. He has all his teeth. He is a really restless sleeper, ends up in strange positions in his cot and flails about all over the place in his sleep and murmuring. It’s like he can never go into a deep sleep and is always on the brink of waking. He didn’t actually sleep too bad until the 4 month regression and he’s been like this ever since.

As a side note - he has a heart condition and is having surgery next year. This has always put me off any sleep training that would involve crying, his lips can go blue when he’s upset and his paediatrician advised against this when I queried sleep training with him.

As background, from 8-16 months we did have an 8 month stint where he slept in his cot bed in his own room. I would go in there around twice a night to feed him because that’s the only times he woke. This was manageable at the time. However when he was 16 months he developed awful separation anxiety and would scream the house down in his cot. He also started to wake numerous times per night and the going back and forth, lying on his bedroom floor etc became too much and that’s when he moved his cot into our room and he’s been here ever since but his sleep is still horrific. I’ve tried actually having him sleep on our mattress next to me but he still wakes up just as much.

He now has a floor bed in his own room and this year I’m determined to improve things and get him back in there but I’m lost. How do I do this? I’m assuming night weaning him or stopping breastfeeding altogether is one of the answers but what terrifies me is stopping feeding him but it makes no different to how much he wakes and then I lose the only tool I’ve got to get him back to sleep quickly. Often when he’s waking in the night he refuses the milk anyway.

Any advice greatly appreciated.

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iamawarriorwhojustcrieseasily · 02/01/2025 10:20

Just throwing it out there because it sounds familiar! Do you consume any cows milk or related products?

I would imagine weaning him, and taking him off the breast will be of huge help to both you and little one at this point too. You have done amazing, but you need a break, and he "may" sleep better fuller for longer.

angelpie33 · 02/01/2025 10:31

Consistently restless sleep can sometimes have an underlying medical cause - possibly tonsils or adenoids related if accompanied by snoring and/or mouth breathing. Or possibly low iron. I would consider going to the GP.

It could also be related to his overall sleep routine and too much daytime sleep or too early a bedtime.

Brightandbreezey · 02/01/2025 10:37

Just a slight word of warning… stopping breast feeding doesn’t necessarily mean they will sleep better!
I stopped bf at 18/19 months, my DD is now 23 months and sleeps awfully. Instead of quick boob and back to sleep it can be hours of rocking, singing, humming, holding. It’s exhausting!
I long for the days where I could just breast feed back!!

LostittoBostik · 02/01/2025 10:38

iamawarriorwhojustcrieseasily · 02/01/2025 10:20

Just throwing it out there because it sounds familiar! Do you consume any cows milk or related products?

I would imagine weaning him, and taking him off the breast will be of huge help to both you and little one at this point too. You have done amazing, but you need a break, and he "may" sleep better fuller for longer.

Exactly what I was going to say.

Sounds like non-IGE cmpa

iamawarriorwhojustcrieseasily · 02/01/2025 13:00

Brightandbreezey · 02/01/2025 10:37

Just a slight word of warning… stopping breast feeding doesn’t necessarily mean they will sleep better!
I stopped bf at 18/19 months, my DD is now 23 months and sleeps awfully. Instead of quick boob and back to sleep it can be hours of rocking, singing, humming, holding. It’s exhausting!
I long for the days where I could just breast feed back!!

That's why i punctuated the " may"....i wasn't suggesting that it would solve the entire issue, but it's an avenue to explore, as OP is knackered!

iamawarriorwhojustcrieseasily · 02/01/2025 13:14

LostittoBostik · 02/01/2025 10:38

Exactly what I was going to say.

Sounds like non-IGE cmpa

Doesn't it just! And i remember those undiagnosed nights! Awful for DS and us. And the many many professionals and their " sleep training/hygiene" advice. 🙄 As soon as he was diagnosed and we stripped it all out ( with multi vits included ) my word. Different child. Different us!

Sunflower1650 · 02/01/2025 13:28

Thanks all for your comments.

When he was 5 months old I did actually cut out dairy and soya for 4.5 weeks (he was waking so much I’d convinced myself he could have a dairy allergy) but I didn’t see a difference to sleep nor did I see it worsening when I reintroduced dairy to my diet. I also lost so much weight and felt unwell. I do eat quite a lot of dairy and I’m a really picky eater so I really struggled with the limited diet and selfishly I don’t think I could trial this again :( Maybe a way forward would be to gradually stop breastfeeding and give him dairy free foods once stopped? I also feel so lost when it comes to stopping breastfeeding because he’s so reliant on it and is a nightmare if I say no or try to distract. He doesn’t have many other CMPA symptoms, his bowel movements and normal, doesn’t seem to have wind, naps fine and seems fine in the day, it’s just his night sleep which is so so bad. Although he does have really dry eczema prone skin, but so does DH so we just thought it was a genetic thing.

I am suspected autistic (although not diagnosed) my other DS who is 5 years old is diagnosed autistic, dyspraxic and is awaiting assessment for ADHD. The other thing that’s crossed my mind is that DS2s sleep is so bad because he is also neurodivergent. Luckily DS1 always slept brilliantly as a baby/toddler (different story now).

I will ask his paediatrician if it’s possible to arrange an iron test to rule this out. I have mentioned his sleep many times before and just keep being told that some young children “just don’t sleep”. But with how agitated and restless he is in the night my gut tells me it’s something medical causing it rather than behavioural. He often isn’t bothered about milk when he wakes and takes no comfort at all in sleeping beside me. He also seems agitated and angry that he’s actually woken up

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