Toddler won’t sleep during the night

isam8598 · 2024-11-26T01:51:33+00:00

Hi has anyone got advice my little one won’t sleep during the night she stays awake all night and sleeps during the day I’ve tried cutting her nap time short but no luck much needed advice is welcome

Spiderweb13 · 26/11/2024 02:17

Hi OP, sorry you are struggling!

What time are they napping?

Other factors that could cause night waking might be coldness? The temp has recently dropped. Is little one warm enough?

Hunger can also cause night waking.

When LO wakes, are they crying or wanting something specific? If they are not upset I would be inclined to leave them for a while and see if they settle on their own.

When you put LO to bed, do you assist them to fall asleep at all?

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isam8598 · 26/11/2024 07:23

She always wants rocking to be put to sleep never has she gone sleep on her own she just wants me in front of her all the time even if I leave the room she starts crying I’m not well my self currently going through health problems and she won’t even stay with my parents she’s so attached to me she wakes up in the evening at 7 currently few days she’s waking up at 9-10 in the evening been awake all night I can’t seem to understand what I can do she’s been doing this since her 16 week vaccinations it’s been an few months now I don’t get what I can she does sometimes cry she bites so you can tell she is teething which I’ve given her medication for she started teething very late I’m just al over the place now her sleep is so light she wakes up quickly even an little noise

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Nc546888 · 26/11/2024 07:25

Wakes up at 7 in the evening? Surely she should be going to bed at 7:30/8pm. Can you give more exact times this doesn’t make sense

Spiderweb13 · 26/11/2024 08:41

How old is your LO?

Do you mean you’re letting her nap in the day until 7pm? If that is the case, then she will definitely be waking at night.

Does she ever sleep in the pram or car? Could you take her out for a nap today around midday 12-2pm then keep her awake until 7pm. Do a nice bath and story and sit with her until she falls asleep. Then repeat the same tomorrow and keep going until she’s no longer overtired.

Once she is used to this routine, you can start to think about slowly teaching her to self soothe at night.

It sounds like separation anxiety mixed with a poor daytime routine.

Geneticsbunny · 26/11/2024 08:53

They sometimes get day and night mixed up. If she is asleep all day then you need to start waking her half an hour earlier each day until she is waking at 6 or 7 am instead of pm. Don't worry. It will sort itself out. In the meantime sleep in the day when she does so you are all least getting some sleep.

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isam8598 · 26/11/2024 11:06

She’s 1 years old I had an c section I’ve got other complications so I couldn’t look after her for 6 months she was with my mum but then we went on holiday since then she won’t leave me at all I’m extremely tired and in pain I don’t know what to do as she’s my first born she won’t go in the pram just wants me even when I have hospital appointments she stays up until I get home so I can put her to bed she’s very attached if I get out of bed she wakes up even my husband has tried even my parents no luck she won’t even go to my mum it’s frustrating I sleep when ever she sleeps but the thing is even when she was born I was in bed my 10-11 pm now it’s the opposite I’m awake at night sleep during the day once I woke her up she stayed up all day all night if anyone has advice please let me know

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isam8598 · 26/11/2024 11:08

Spiderweb13 · 26/11/2024 08:41

How old is your LO?

Do you mean you’re letting her nap in the day until 7pm? If that is the case, then she will definitely be waking at night.

Does she ever sleep in the pram or car? Could you take her out for a nap today around midday 12-2pm then keep her awake until 7pm. Do a nice bath and story and sit with her until she falls asleep. Then repeat the same tomorrow and keep going until she’s no longer overtired.

Once she is used to this routine, you can start to think about slowly teaching her to self soothe at night.

It sounds like separation anxiety mixed with a poor daytime routine.

I don’t mind taking her out but the thing is cause she’s awake all night I need my sleep I can’t function without sleep I’m waiting for treatment from the hospital I’m in extreme a lot of pain she’s made her routine I’ve tried everything I even wake her up early but she still wakes up after 4 hours

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Geneticsbunny · 26/11/2024 19:55

Waking after 4 hours is pretty good going for a 6 month old. So you can feed her and put her back in bed and stay near her. The important thing is to keep night time quiet and dark, so no turning lights on or playing, just dark and quiet.

Ignore. I didnt read your post properly.

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isam8598 · 27/11/2024 01:30

It’s ok don’t worry she’s 1 year old now I’m doing what I can to change everything it’s very hard though

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nomoretreats · 27/11/2024 01:42

Can you co sleep with her in the bed?

Maybe if you share your sleep routine with her others can help support with advice/tips.

Bumbleebeetree · 27/11/2024 02:56

This sounds so exhausting 💐She's only one though -she really needs you.

I would try to keep her awake more in the day time from 3pm so she has at least 4 hours awake before bedtime. Once you've cracked that you can try to keep her awake in the morning too with just a lunchtime nap or two naps or whatever she needs. Have some really fun days out without the pram so she has to stay awake for longer stretches. It won't change in one day but you might be able to encourage her to sleep more over night over the course of a few nights.

Have you looked into Co sleeping for part or all of the night to support DC with separation anxiety? She will likely pick up on your anxiety and want to be even closer to you. Sounds like she's sleeping in the day to be closer to you because she feels safe with you. I think she probably needs lots of reassuring and cuddles. Speak to the HV too because they'll have good ideas to support you both xx

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isam8598 · 27/11/2024 09:10

nomoretreats · 27/11/2024 01:42

Can you co sleep with her in the bed?

Maybe if you share your sleep routine with her others can help support with advice/tips.

She sleeps with me as husband goes to work in the morning so she’s next to me she’s to attached to sleep separate

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isam8598 · 27/11/2024 09:29

Bumbleebeetree · 27/11/2024 02:56

This sounds so exhausting 💐She's only one though -she really needs you.

I would try to keep her awake more in the day time from 3pm so she has at least 4 hours awake before bedtime. Once you've cracked that you can try to keep her awake in the morning too with just a lunchtime nap or two naps or whatever she needs. Have some really fun days out without the pram so she has to stay awake for longer stretches. It won't change in one day but you might be able to encourage her to sleep more over night over the course of a few nights.

Have you looked into Co sleeping for part or all of the night to support DC with separation anxiety? She will likely pick up on your anxiety and want to be even closer to you. Sounds like she's sleeping in the day to be closer to you because she feels safe with you. I think she probably needs lots of reassuring and cuddles. Speak to the HV too because they'll have good ideas to support you both xx

Hey she's always with me she even sleeps with me I love her to bits she the most special thing that has happened to me in life I'm currently trying to change the pattern I just hope it works she probably is picking up on what I'm going through I'm doing my best I never ever thought of her doing what she does but going with the flow

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isam8598 · 27/11/2024 13:57

shes woken up early today 1pm properly thinks it’s not sleep time yet how do I go about her naps ? 1st nap ? And 2nd nap she has only slept 4 hours seems as she’s made up for the sleep that I woke her up ?

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Nettleskeins · 27/11/2024 14:14

Daylight stimulates the brain (pineal gland???)to sleep properly, later, at night. If you can maximise getting her out in the daylight hours, "out" out, it will help reset her sleep cycles. Even if she has only an afternoon nap for two hours that at least will mean you can sleep too for a bit in the day. So if you can get outside together between 10 and 12 am it might make a big difference, even if it just sitting on a park bench or on a pavement table in a cafe next to a buggy. Interesting and entertaining for baby too to see the world go by.
Food and drink also wake you up and taken at "wrong" times tend to change sleep patterns.

JurassicPark4Eva · 27/11/2024 14:17

Can you write here her usual schedule of sleep, food and activities in an average day? It isn't making much sense at the moment about how long naps are or times etc.

Karmacode · 27/11/2024 14:18

This sounds tough OP but I'll admit I'm completely confused by your posts. Your saying your toddler wakes at 7pm? And then waking up at 9-10pm? And then having a four hour nap?

I think if you posted clearly about her routine and when she goes to sleep and wakes up and nap times and lengths people can provide better guidance. Does she have her day and night mixed up? If so then of course she'll be up all night. What are you doing with her during the day.

MummyNurseWifi · 27/11/2024 14:20

Op there's lots to unpick here. Huge red flags for me.
Why did your mum have your daughter for the first six months of her life? Why didn't your husband/you care for your child?
Why are you sleeping all day and letting your daughter sleep all day? Of course if she sleeps all day she won't want to sleep at night.
She needs to be going out in the daytime, to have sunlight. Not stuck indoors each day.
I would not be giving my 1yr old a nap if they haven't waking up till 1pm!!
You have to set a routine, up at 7am breakfast GO OUTSIDE, lunch, GO OUTSIDE, snacks etc. then dinner, bath and bed for 7pm.
It will be hard for the first few days, then she will be in a new routine.

Karmacode · 27/11/2024 15:02

MummyNurseWifi · 27/11/2024 14:20

Op there's lots to unpick here. Huge red flags for me.
Why did your mum have your daughter for the first six months of her life? Why didn't your husband/you care for your child?
Why are you sleeping all day and letting your daughter sleep all day? Of course if she sleeps all day she won't want to sleep at night.
She needs to be going out in the daytime, to have sunlight. Not stuck indoors each day.
I would not be giving my 1yr old a nap if they haven't waking up till 1pm!!
You have to set a routine, up at 7am breakfast GO OUTSIDE, lunch, GO OUTSIDE, snacks etc. then dinner, bath and bed for 7pm.
It will be hard for the first few days, then she will be in a new routine.

This exactly. You need to be waking up at the same time every morning. She needs to be out during the day preferably morning and afternoon whether it be a park, toddler group or soft play and as much fresh air as possible. A nap after lunch and then bed around 7/8pm.

She hasn't found this routine, it's a routine you've allowed her to get into through what seems a complete lack of structure to her day. I'm can't seem to understand when she wakes up or what you do with her during the day. It appears your both just sleeping throughout the day but I may be wrong.

I appreciate your health conditions but if you're too unwell to be looking after her during the day and providing her with the stimulation and structure she needs then you need to be looking at a family member or childcare where her needs can be met.