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Why is my 9mo suddenly waking in the night?

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Bumperlicious · 02/04/2008 07:09

Help! My baby has slept 11-7 since she was 2 months old and 8-7 not much longer after that, but suddenly at 9 months she is waking up 1-4 times a night!

She isn't particularly hungry, sometimes she will fall back asleep as soon as you pick up her, or sometimes (like last night) she won't go back to sleep for an hour, just wants to be held. We tried bringing her into our bed last night but she wouldn't go to sleep. She wakes up crying, but stops once you get her up.

I was concerned that it might be something like sleep apnoea (my thread here) but the gp checked her ears and chest and said she had never seen it in a baby so probably wasn't.

Can someone please suggest any reasons why she might be waking up or what to do? This has been going on for about 3 weeks (since her 1st 2 teeth came though) and I went back to work yesterday so am not overjoyed at being woken up several times a night.

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Bumperlicious · 02/04/2008 07:52

desperate bump?

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Emmahugs · 02/04/2008 09:12

My sympathies. Funnily (or not!) enough my baby has just turned 9 months and is doing EXACTLY the same. It started after a cold. She was a good sleeper before generally. She goes to bed well enough but wakes anytime from 9pm to 3am and takes hours to resettle. Last night was a bit better - she woke at 3 and i stood holding her until I couldn't stand up anymore and she settled back down but often it takes much much longer. She won't settle in our bed at all so that's not an option.

Perhaps it has something to do with them suddenly becoming much more physical and independent? Daisy is crawling all the time now and starting to pull herself up. She's also babbling away all day. It does seem to coincide with this. I've also read about seperation anxiety at this age but i'm not sure if that's it. I tried a night light and it just made things worse. I'm sorry I don't have any answers for you! I'm hoping it's just a phase they'll grow out of?!

If it goes on much longer I might try the pick up put down method recommended by the baby whisperer...I don't know if I have the patience though!

It's awful being tired all the time. All I can do is reassure you that you're not alone. Good luck. Let me know how it goes?

Bumperlicious · 02/04/2008 19:02

Thanks emma, reassuring to know that it is normal, just wish i knew when it was going to end! thanks for the sympathies!

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pulapula · 02/04/2008 19:41

My 9mo DS has also recently started night-waking which can result in being awake for 2 hours, although if i can't settle him quickly then i'm sure he just becomes over-tired. At least his disturbed sleep is usually before 1am so we get some solid sleep but he is waking up earlier too (i think that's hunger). So I can empathise but don't have any solutions. Sorry

moocowme · 02/04/2008 19:41

have you tried wake to sleep method for regular wakings?

Upsidedowncake · 02/04/2008 19:47

Are your DCs moving in their cots?

My DS (now 28 months) did exactly this from 9-11 months. He would wake up and crawl up and down in his cot like a demented sleep-crawler, only he was awake and yelling his head off.

The solution - recommended by a friend and OKayed by the HV - was to tuck his sleeping bag in the bottom of the cot so he couldn't move. The HV thought he probably felt insecure and needed the 9-month-old equivalent of swaddling. The first time I did it, I felt like I was inflicting a cruel and unusual punishment, but he fell asleep like a rock, and we tucked him in at bedtime every night after that, and he never woke up again.

gegs73 · 02/04/2008 19:50

DS2 does this when he is teething (he is 10mo). Have you tried her with some calpol or baby nurofen to see if that settles her. Might be worth a try.

Emmahugs · 02/04/2008 20:26

Pampers emailed me this today...thought you might be interested!x

Your little one's changing night-time behaviour at 9 months

GOODNIGHT DOESN'T MEAN FAREWELL! If you're suddenly experiencing broken nights again, this may be because your little one is developing new anxieties in her daily life. In the past few months, she has probably started to show some shyness towards other people, and become more clingy than usual as a result. This can be a tricky time to handle, but it is a normal and healthy stage in your baby's development. As her social world expands and she learns to move around alone, she gradually starts to fear the prospect of being separated from the principle person who provides her with love and security. She has a naturally strong urge to explore, but doesn't yet feel confident with this new-found freedom. The anxiety your baby might be feeling right now can sometimes affect her sleep. By calling you to her bedside each time she awakens to find herself alone, she is reassuring herself that you're still around. Don't despair, it's only temporary, she will just need a little more patience and encouragement than usual while she passes through this phase of uncertainty. It won't be long before she begins to feel more confident again, and the quiet nights return.

Bumperlicious · 02/04/2008 21:57

Thanks emma, that's reassuring.

Maybe I will give some calpol a try but I don't want to get into the habit of it. If she wakes up again tonight (she's just been up for an hour and a half after going down at 7.30) then tomorrow we will give her calpol.

I don't think it is a movement thing as though she is crawling she never seems to move in bed.

We have put her in a new larger sleeping bag as maybe she is feeling restricted but she has already been up once so it hasn't helped.

When she was up she really struggled to get back to sleep. We had a couple of friends over so when DH bought her into the living room she got herself really worked up (v unusual for her - she loves attention), and she just laid on me for about an hour before falling asleep. She definitely isn't particularly hungry.

So does anyone know how long this phase is going to last?

Moocow, what is the wake to sleep method?

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Emmahugs · 03/04/2008 10:44

I gave Daisy Calpol last night as yesterday she suddenly started showing a few suspicious signs of teething...red cheeks, biting etc. I have her some Clpl at bedtime and she slept right through from 6.45pm to 6.45am...first night for absolutely ages. I feel human again, it's amazing the difference it makes. This morning she's the same...biting, red cheeks, dribbling etc so I do now wonder if these night troubles our babies are having are teeth related? The wake to sleep method is only if they are waking up at exactly the same time every night I think.

Bumperlicious · 03/04/2008 18:04

Thanks Emma, we'll be trying the ol' calpol ourselves tonight, even if it just breaks the pattern.

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Emmahugs · 04/04/2008 12:18

AWFUL night! How about you?

Bumperlicious · 05/04/2008 07:27

Friday night 4 times awake, last night, gave her calpol - 2 times awake!

I just don't know what to do. Is your LO hungry? DD isn't, she is just awake and upset.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

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Emmahugs · 05/04/2008 10:16

Poor poor you. No, she not hungry either. Just awake. 11pm - 3am. Am at a complete loss. Going to try pick up/put down tonight for sure - it's worth a try... i just can't think what else to do. The other night was so fed up I put the light on to see what she would do - big mistake, she was absolutely delighted, started laughing and being

siwww.babywhisperer.com/smf/index.php?board=89.0lly.

Emmahugs · 05/04/2008 10:36

being really silly! So tired didn't even finish sentence!!!x

Bumperlicious · 05/04/2008 19:55

Ok, she is down, she has had some more calpol and on the advice of my mum I have left a couple of toys in her cot (which might possibly make things worse but she gets very upset when I don't take her advice ) so please think very sleepy thoughts for me and my DD!

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Emmahugs · 06/04/2008 09:24

How'd it go? I had a full nights sleep. I don't know how it happened!x

SpecialOffer · 06/04/2008 09:39

My son is 9 months and I am going through a simialr thing. He slept last night though..... I feel human again.

I made the mistake of turning on the light the night before last to see something, well play time at 2am... mmmmmmm

My son is not hungry either, tried the bottle just pushes it out with his mouth.

Hope all got a good nights sleep last night!

Bumperlicious · 06/04/2008 09:41

That's brilliant! Anything you did differently?

We had a kind of breakthrough. DD woke up just as I was going to bed (about 10pm ) so DH got up to her. We had agreed to try shush pat type thing. DH went into her after 2 mins, then 5 then 10 then another 10. He found it so hard. We had put a soft toy dolly in her cot and he said she was hugging it and sobbing . Heartbreaking! So after about half an hour he cracked and went into her, but just sat on the floor while she stroked his face

Anyway she must have gone back to sleep, but woke up later on when it was my turn, god knows what time I've stopped looking. Anyway she stopped crying as soon as I went in the room and I sat next to her for a few minutes and she went back off without being picked up, and didn't wake up again. So here's hoping for tonight [fingers crossed icon]

Good luck to you too!

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CaraLondon · 06/04/2008 09:47

DD is 8m and started doing this this week. I thought it might be a cold coming on, so I stuck a flattish pillow under the mattress cover under her head. It really worked even though she didn't have a cold - just some mucus build up as a result of the teething - you could give it a go?

Gita22 · 13/04/2008 08:53

Hello,
My DD will be 9 months next week and is doing the same as your babies since the end of Jan (she was 6 1/2 months old). At first I thought it was because her routine was completely gone 'cause we went to Spain for 5 weeks, but we have been back for almost 7 weeks and still the same. She used to be a very good sleeper (I had to wake her up to feed). She had her first 2 teeth at 19/20 weeks, but nothing happened. But in Jan she started to be in her four and try to crawl. By 7 and a bit more months she was crawling and 4 teeth were breaking (in 2 weeks). So I assumed it is the reason: teething and activity during the day ( = she does not "switch off" completely). She is still the same (two more teeth breaking...) and I do not know what to do either.
She is in bed between 7-8, fully fed. Sometimes she wakes up every hour and sometimes she wakes up around 10 or 11. Then at 2, 4 or 5. Then up for the day around 7 or earlier.
She wakes up and quickly goes to the bottom of the cot and stands up crying for us to go and get her. Sometimes it is enough to put her down and tap her back a bit and she will sleep again (not often I have to say). Most of the times it will take between 45 mins to 4 hours... You think she is sleeping, but as soon as you leave her room she starts to cry!. I try not to pick her up, so she gets used to go back to sleep on her own, but sometimes you just have to. And sometimes it does not work either because the second you put her back in her cot, she starts the crying. So not a fixed pattern.
Sometimes when it is too much, we just get her in bed with us, so we can get some sleep (I am not a person if I do not rest...).
We have tried the "leaving her to cry" method and the opposite, but they do not work, maybe because we do not stick to up long enough??

Average she wakes up between 2 and 5 times a night, but sometimes even 10!! This is killing me and I am dreading going back to work, because I do not know how I will handle it.

She also moves a lot in her cot, and like Upsidedowncake said, a few times she was frantic in the cot, crawling up and down, non-stop, like a mad animal!! That night she kept we awake, next to her cot from 1 am to 5 am....

She also sometimes settles only by touching me, one of my fingers, a bit of my hand... It is like she know I am there and she is safe ( = separation anxiety??). Of course, while the hand is there she is fine, as soon as I remove it thinking she is asleep, she moves, sits down, and gets all nervous... Just a few times she was really sleeping.

I have been recommended an osteopath and I will give it a try. Nothing to lose. I will let you know. If anyone interested: www.fpo.org.uk

I know this is not going to be forever, but at the moment it looks like it.

Bumperlicious · 17/04/2008 12:16

Sorry you are having the same problem Gita. We are still having problems.

The touching the finger thing you described is EXACTLY what was happening last night when DD cried for and hour and a half at 4am, but I can't sit and hold her hand all night every night so if anyone has any magic solutions I would be eternally grateful!

She is also struggling to get off to sleep during the day.

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Gita22 · 18/04/2008 17:42

Hello,
I am feeling much better as had some rest. I do not want to say this is over 'cause that's what I said last time and it only lasted for 2 days. DD has been "kind of sleeping" the whole night for 3 nights now. I say "kind of" because she is still crying, but only once I had to get up and go to her room to help her to settle again. She still wakes up and cries, but I think that it is more a "sleeping cry", because it does not last for very long (only a couple of mins, a few times). This would happen 1 or 5 times, but she goes back to sleep on her own.
But as I said, this is not a victory yet, do not want to have very high hopes, just in case...
At least she is not so afraid of the cot, or at least it looks like it because she does not scream anymore. If she is entertained there, she is fine. I leave her there with a few small toys for her to play with and it seems to work.

I do not have any suggestions Bumperlicious, but what I have been doing is staying next to her in the cot and touch her, but not letting her to touch me, if that makes any sense. If she needs something to hold on to, I give her a soft teddy bear and she will take it, shake it and even throw it, but it kind of helps.
I also have one of this music things you put in the cot and let it play with a low volume and set the time (15 mins). She does hardly sleep in 15 mins, but the music seems to help her to settle...

Anyway, we will see if this lasts.... keep my fingers crossed.

PS: still going to the osteopath next week!

BumperliciousNeedsToSleep · 19/04/2008 09:20

Hi gita, glad things seem to be better. let me know how the osteopath goes. I'm thinking of taking DD, but if the whole issue is separation anxiety then not sure osteopath will help us.

Emmahugs · 21/04/2008 19:41

Hi Bump, How's it going now? I've been away and not been able to get to computer easily. Daisy has just started sprouting a third tooth so it's been difficult and she's been having a little calpol most nights. Her gum's been bleeding and her cheeks were bright red. Sleeping seems to have settled a little. I wonder if this was why she was so awful at night as now the tooth has actually broken the surface her night waking has been less. Maybe they've just been really uncomfortable and sore...do you think this could apply to your baby? I hope you're getting some sleep. x

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