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Almost 2 year old - “split nights” and long put downs

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MegaMeg2710 · 01/04/2024 17:42

I’m struggling with my second DC’s bedtime and sleep!

He’s almost 2 years old, and this has been going on since last summer. He was able to climb out of his cot so he is in a low down single bed with guards as it’s safer, he doesn’t like the duvet, always pushing it off but has woken up cold before, so is in a footless 2.5 tog sleeping bag and his room is 19/20 degrees.

I bathe him at 18:30 and he’s “in bed” by 19:00, when has a 7oz bottle of oat/cows milk in bed and his dummy once he’s finished it.

He usually takes a really long time to fall asleep, tossing and turning, jumping up and laying back down, or even just laying there or snuggling, sometimes for up to 2 and a half hours, and he cannot bear to be alone. I lay with him in basically pitch dark, either in silence or singing softly until he falls asleep, If I try to leave he cries inconsolably and climbs out of bed and comes out of his room to cry on the landing, which seems never ending, I’ve tried leaving him 15 mins and returning but he cries so hard that he’s usually sick, and that feels really cruel. I really would like to get my evenings back, I also have a 5 year old that now comes into his bed to fall asleep after reading to them both, then once they are both asleep I carry her to her own bed, she always nods off first, otherwise she has to just fall asleep herself, alone first, without a goodnight routine, so lately I have just put them to bed together (their dad works late and does wake up and breakfast with them).

He then wakes up again anytime between 11 pm and 4 am and again will not go back to sleep easily even after being soothed, and even once asleep he’s tossing and turning; it’s like he try he knows the second you try to leave. I end up Co-sleeping in his single or bringing him up into our bed, where either way I don’t get sleep as I end up with approximately an a4 piece of bed, back ache, trying to avoid a little arm or leg slipping under me the second I turn over, once he is asleep that is…

It always has to be me attending to him at night because his dad does try, but it ends in a giant, loud, crying fit when he sees it’s not me.

I’m close to the end of my rope, I find myself feeling grumpy and even unwell most days.
He has a 1-1.5 hr nap each day, which we’ve played with the timing of to no avail. He wakes up anytime between 6-8, we usually wake him up by 7 if he’s not up already. It also doesn’t seem to matter what time he goes to bed or wakes up in the morning, he still takes ages to go down and will wake up in the night without fail.

He’s a really happy, active and healthy boy otherwise, he eats really well, communicates and understands well, he gets lots of exercise, outdoor play and stimulation at home and with childminder, barely any screen time at all.

If anyone has any ideas of what else we could try, please, PLEASE share them.

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Wasywasydoodah · 01/04/2024 17:44

Drop the nap. It will be painful to start with but worth it

MegaMeg2710 · 02/04/2024 17:06

I did sort of try that for two days, not very hard tho - he ended up nodding off at 3 the first day and a danger nap at 5 the second…how do you keep them awake? I literally
went to the loo and he was asleep on the floor poor guy!

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GinnyBee · 02/04/2024 19:58

I would try capping the nap first before dropping it. Maybe try waking him after 45minutes? Then 30 minutes if that doesn't work. Mine is a similar age and had about 6 weeks starting in early January when he just didn't nap and didn't seem to need it. After just less than two weeks the trouble started and we've had a really shit 2 months, and now have finally had two nights of sleeping through and no bedtime battles! (Could be a fluke though, 2 nights is not exactly a pattern)

He's never been a solid sleeper but we'd seen improvement since he was about 13 months old. Never consistently good though. So the first week without a nap was amazing, he coped really well all day and then slept 13 hours at night... until he didn't! He still copes well without a nap but nights are a shitshow if he doesn't get a nap in, but I now cap it at 45min-1hr if he doesn't wake up on his own, and he often does after about 30 minutes. He used to nap 1.5hr but that's now too much and he would never go to bed. He also has his nap early, ideally I want him awake before 12 noon to go to bed at 7-7.30. I have to drive him, if I waited for him to accept a nap at home it would be at like 2-3pm, but recently in the car he's often asleep in 3 minutes.

MegaMeg2710 · 03/04/2024 20:43

Hope your good night streak is still continuing!!

I think cutting it down bit by bit is a good shout, I’ve asked his childminder to do the same.

It’s just taken an hour and fifteen minutes of nonsense to get him to drop off, I can’t even use my phone as he just has to jump up to investigate!

He doesn’t often drop off in the car weirdly, and if he does the second you open his door he’s awake so I can’t even sneakily carry him in!!

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GinnyBee · 04/04/2024 14:54

Yeah I can't transfer mine from the car either so I mostly end up just sitting in the driveway or Tesco car park.

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