Baby wakes every time put down or moved

[BoyMum13]

My second son is very similar to my first and literally wakes every time he’s put down but also basically every time there is movement - for example car seat in from car. He’s stayed asleep possibly twice when in car seat. I drove myself crazy first time round and ended up just sitting with him but I don’t have that luxury this time. It’s exhausting. If I’m standing when he falls asleep (in carrier) and then dare to sit, he generally wakes. I’m having to co-sleep at night even though I don’t really want to. This has led to short naps and he just will not go back to sleep.
So very tired!
Should say - he’s suffering with reflux too!

Sounds very much like my first. I think with my DS it was undiagnosed Tongue Tie.

We bought a foam wedge to put under the mattress to help with reflux. Books worked too! We bought the Dr Brown bottles which really helped with reflux and it completely went away.

This will take a while to work but we gave baby time in cot/ basket without picking her up. We listened to her gurgle and didn't pick her up until she sounded like she might want us. I had read that babies need quiet and space to start processing the world around them and who controls their hands and things. The amazing side effect was that she could wake in the night and be Ok babbling to herself and could go back to sleep on her own.

He has partial tongue tie but it’s posterior and doesn’t effect tongue movement and quite severe lip tie but figured that would effect feeding more than sleeping 🤷‍♀️

Have a wedge in my Amazon basket! I’ll get it.

It definitely affected my DS's sleep and weaning and speech.

Are you thinking of having the ties snipped?

I was advised not to by our feeding support (even though BF wasn’t working and incredibly painful) 🤷‍♀️

Our DD had reflux resulting from tongue tie. She had sleeping issues as a result.

Looking at your latest message I don't understand the advice given...

I don't understand the advice you were given either. It's clearly affecting his feeding which is impacting on sleep. Can you push for division?

I stopped BF within a week (supply issues too) and am doubly sad now because I think with someone more supportive, it might’ve worked but who knows?
I’m confused too. Tongue tie is tongue tie right? He takes the bottle fine though.

He's probably not able to form a proper seal on the bottle hence the extra air going in causing the reflux like symptoms.

He seems to be feeding fine but I’ll pop to the health visitors drop in and ask them to see.

Thank you guys ❤️

He seems to be feeding fine but I’ll pop to the health visitors drop in and ask them to see

Unfortunately, unless you have an exceptional HV, they are very unlikely to know anything about lip or Tongue tie.

Did you have a look at the link I posted earlier? Does he have many of the symptoms?

I didn’t realise it was a link.
Now sat sobbing as there’s so many symptoms and I just feel like I’ve been fobbed off but a supposed specialist. She didn’t watch him feed in the flesh, his breathing/gulping as gotten much worse during feeding, all sorts. I’ll get an appointment x

I don't have any experience with the tongue tie issue but please don't cry or be upset- you did the right thing by seeking advice and it's absolutely not your fault if you didn't perhaps receive very good advice from the professional!

In practical terms, I also have a Velcro baby who's terrible at being put down and here's what's helped us
-Replacing the sheet in the cot with one of those warm fluffy blankets (ours are from Asda/primark for about £5), it's much cosier and similar to being cosied up to you than a cotton sheet, also helps to sleep with it for a couple days so it smells like you
-Putting baby down on their side, I also sort of pull on the bottom of her sleep bag to fully shift her weight onto her side. When we cosleep she's on her side so it's another similarity for her
-Holding babe till you feel they're like deadweight and floppy armed, sometimes this is 5 mins sometimes 35 but I personally feel 'drowsy but awake' is bollocks you need to be sure babe is fully asleep before you attempt the move

I'm aware some of this fully goes against the lullaby trust guidelines but you'll need to weigh up the risks yourself. Eg I make sure the room isn't too hot to account for the warmer blanket sheet, and my baby can roll both ways easily herself now so I'm not worried about her getting stuck.

@BoyMum13 we were told DS had slight posterior tongue tie that wouldn't effect him by first 2 midwives we saw but he had awful wind/reflux and we had to abandon breastfeeding attempts after few weeks but saw the tongue tie team who snipped it at 6weeks and since then he could latch so much better ans the wind,feeding all improved (even tho he had seemed ok on bottle before, as soon as it was done it was obviously much better latch/quicker feed)..

Obviously thats just my example but I remember feeling so frustrated that the tongue tie thing was just dismissed as not impacting him when it clearly did 🙃

@Bizzyone thank you for this. It’s so upsetting as I really suffered mentally when BF didn’t work with my first and I feel like I’m suppressing the trauma now that it hasn’t worked again.
I’ll get in touch with the tongue tie specialist that I cancelled when the other ‘specialist’ said it wouldn’t make a difference to feeding.

@aeb941 all good points - thank you! Appreciate it 😊

@BoyMum13 definitely pursue it as its worth just being able to have a conversation with the team themselves! I couldn't believe the difference it made and felt quite frustrated/low about breastfeeding not working so totally understand!