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2 Year Old - Sleep since sibling arrived

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CupidStunt24 · 25/02/2023 23:07

Hi,

This is more asking how to juggle a certain situation as opposed to "fixing" my toddlers sleep.

We have a 2yr old (turned two in Jan) and a 2 week old. So far, toddler loves his baby brother and for the most part and taken it really well. I have noticed a little bit of "insecurity" creeping in (follows me if I leave the room repeating "mum, mum", wants to sit on my lap as soon as I start feeding the baby, telling me to put the baby down etc) all of which I expected. He has always been a fab sleeper (small episodes of waking in the night, where one of us has always gone in, laid on his floor and he's gone back off). This was quite rare and usually when teething etc. The other night we had an awful night where he woke up HYSTERICAL at 1am, DP went in and laid on his floor. I woke at 3am to feed the baby to see him laying in his cot, not crying but wide awake looking at the ceiling. He did not go back to sleep all night, I ended up getting up with him at 5am. Felt a molar popping through the next morning and assumed that was it.
However now, he's started getting REALLY upset at bedtime - I have always been able to put him down and walk out, he just goes to sleep. Now he's started shouting for me, and then daddy, before gradually getting more and more upset. I hate hearing him cry out for us, it really tears me apart! I absolutely want to be there to comfort him, laying on his floor if need be, until he goes to sleep. I'm sure this is just a phase until he settles. However, DP is often out in the evenings due to work, sometimes staying away. How on earth do I deal with this on my own with toddler and newborn? I can't leave newborn on his own downstairs whilst laying upstairs with toddler. Also with regards to this happening in the night, I can't leave newborn asleep in his cot in my room and go through the toddlers for hours on end! It seems a bit mad to be sitting in on his floor in the pitch black holding a newborn aswell! For context:

• Both are bathed together and changed for bed. Newborn then put down and all of toddlers routine is the same - milk, books, cuddles and up to bed. This hasn't changed much for him.
• Toddler has been in his new room since before Xmas - this isn't a new thing, his sleep setting has not changed since the baby arrived (still in a cot, not ready for a bed). Has settled fine in his room since the first week after an initial wobble.
• Newborn still very much sleeps all day - toddler has most, if not all, of our attention all day.
• Toddler coming into my bed when home alone isn't an option, he does not settle and just plays, shouts, gets out of bed etc.
• DP returns to work on Monday after 2 weeks off, hence my current panic about how on Earth to deal with this if at home alone with them both!

I'm not sure if I need to be a bit firmer, if maybe he is pushing boundaries a little aswell as feeling a bit upheaved with the changes of having a new sibling.

Sorry if the answer is really obvious, i'm tired and sad for him and hate that he is feeling unsettled!

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Flittingaboutagain · 26/02/2023 04:54

I wouldn't see it as pushing boundaries. This is the biggest change he's ever known and is only two weeks in! It sounds like you're on your own a lot in the evenings otherwise I'd suggest divide and conquer. I imagine he'll settle soon but at the moment he'll have a big case of FOMO going on. I would take the newborn in and try to settle him rather than leave him to cry or leave the newborn and see how that goes.

Sazzlehead · 26/02/2023 05:45

We went through similar with my daughter when we had my son. She was 3 so a bit older. We made a bed time chart which helped bedtime feel a bit more special whatmomslove.com/kids/printable-bedtime-routine-chart/
Unfortunately the newborn will have to kind of fit in. Could you get a moses basket you could leave in your 2 year olds room? That way if you're lying in there at least you have somewhere for baby. The first few months are tricky with 2. You'll find what works and soon this will all be a distant memory

CupidStunt24 · 26/02/2023 08:11

Thank you both! I think that's kind of what I wanted to hear, it is a huge change for him and I just want to be able to comfort him! I was half expecting to hear he needs to be left, which I hate as it's not like him to be upset at bedtime and I just don't like it. I don't have a Moses basket, he has a next to me cot at night and a chair/pod for downstairs in the day for obviously supervised sleeping. I suppose I could always take the pod up with me and lay him next to me if I need to be in there with toddler.

I knew it would be an adjustment for us all I just don't think I ever imagined to be so upset for the eldest, he's such a happy boy. I hate seeing him feeling unsure and unsettled 💔

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Warda124 · 13/06/2023 17:02

How it all going? Did you find anything that worked for you?

I was in the same situation as you a few months ago. DS1 is 18 months and DS2 is 2 months.

I've got no idea what to do. First I let toddler cry to sleep and it worked for 2 weeks but then he started getting out of his bed, opening the door and finding me. Or otherwise he ends up being hysterical all throughout his sleep.

Currently, I've shifted toddlers bed time to 10pm and he wakes at 7am. It's not fun for me at all but it's the only way he gets so tired and knocks off quicker. He just has a really long nap now. Plus DP can take him for bed time and although he is overtired he is happy and overtired.

I'm not sure what to do :/

Flittingaboutagain · 13/06/2023 20:33

I have them both with me on a single bed in toddler's room and I feed them in turn until baby conks out then put baby in bouncy chair on floor Meanwhile have been singing to toddler or reading stories. Once baby asleep I then feed toddler to sleep and hope to transfer to cot before baby stirs. Then get the hell outta there!

Flittingaboutagain · 13/06/2023 20:34

Posted on another thread about how seeing the impact on toddler has been so so hard and unexpectedly the worst aspects of having another baby. So I get you.

dwightschrutebeets · 13/06/2023 20:47

Flittingaboutagain · 13/06/2023 20:34

Posted on another thread about how seeing the impact on toddler has been so so hard and unexpectedly the worst aspects of having another baby. So I get you.

Oh no sorry to hear that. How old is your toddler? I have an 18 month old and TTC number 2 but it's abit scary!

Flittingaboutagain · 14/06/2023 07:16

dwightschrutebeets · 13/06/2023 20:47

Oh no sorry to hear that. How old is your toddler? I have an 18 month old and TTC number 2 but it's abit scary!

If you search for guilt at having second baby on the internet you'll find so many articles, poems etc on this topic. My health visitor said when your first is under five the impact is huge and sent me lots of links to read. Mother Truths on Facebook has some lovely illustrations about this now she's had her second.

https://www.jessicaurlichs.com/post/one-to-two this lady also knows the score.

It's been a ride. Watching toddlers little face drop as they want mumma to do X and I have to say yes I will soon and try and distract as I'm feeding the baby gets me every time still.

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