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Sudden sleep issues nearly 9 year old

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carlylovespies · 11/01/2023 22:40

After any advice.

My daughter has always been pretty good at bed times. We have always been quite strict since she was a baby about bed time routines but she always ended up getting into bed with us until half way through the night until she was about 4. My son was born & then this wasn't an option as he was in our room also. She has never been happy about being in her own room but it's never been an issue. Until now.

Whilst the bed time routine is done with her brother, we always make it clear that we don't expect her to sleep that early. So we bath, read, sing and chat every night with them both (DH & I take in turns with each child and we do it all together as 4 on a weekend). We then put my son to bed (he's 5) and it's 8pm by this point. My son goes to sleep fast at this point. However it's too early for DD & so we've said she can play quietly, read, ask Alexa to read her an audio book, colour / write at her desk, listen to music etc. basically anything she wants as long as she doesn't wake her brother and winds down. However, this isn't good enough for her. Despite being happy, playful and engaged with the routine, the moment she gets into bed the moping begins. She has tummy ache, foot hurts, too hot, can see clowns in her mind, you name it - she's got it as an excuse. So I gently remind her of all the things she can do in her room. But she won't do any of it! She just lays in the dark sulking. She will occasionally read at our insistence but other than that, evenings have just become a farce of her up and down the stairs with all these imaginary problems.

We've really tried to be patient, but we are becoming frustrated now. We are upstairs post bed time routine until 9pm as it is, and we are both knackered from working full time so are in bed by 10. Literally all we want to do is watch 1 episode of Happy Valley on an evening without her constantly coming down.

Tonight she has said that she is worried to come and talk to me because im always angry at her when she does. That comment is so unfair I could cry! I have frustratingly explained to her for a 100th time that it's bedtime, and asked what exactly she expects from us etc but at this point I don't know what else I can do!

I want to set this firm boundary around bed time with her, but I feel guilty that she's getting upset but also annoyed that she just focuses on all the bad things about me, when I put so much effort in.

Tonight I had been downstairs just 30 mins when at 10.15 she appeared saying she missed me. I spent all evening around the kids, even though they were on iPads for a bit etc, I was there, asking about their days, etc etc.

Any suggestions? She's still up now making excuses, going to the toilet etc

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carlylovespies · 12/01/2023 00:05

Hoping someone can offer help. She's still up now and in and out of her room and it's after midnight. I've just lost my temper with her now

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BabyOnBoard90 · 13/01/2023 01:26

You can't blame her for the routine you have facilitated, it's essentially your fault / responsibility.

At 9 years old I'd be firm in that bed time is set at 8pm, and she stays in her own bed. Before sleeping I would suggest at least an hour to wind down. That means no TV or other devices. Reading is helpful with sleep.

carlylovespies · 13/01/2023 06:38

We already do all that and I think our routine is good rather than something to be blamed for. I don't blame her either.

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Newuser82 · 13/01/2023 06:58

We had this problem with our son and it was anxiety related. Could this be an issue with your daughter? What worked for us was making a step by step plan together with a small reward at the end such as a trip to the park or time making cakes or whatever. So step one would be go to bed and stay in bed and we would pop up every 5 minutes to check on him. If he stayed in bed for a week he would get his reward. This was gradually increased to we would call up once or twice to see if he was ok then he would stay in bed without any input from us. It worked brilliantly.

However if it's not anxiety based I would be using consequences. She is old enough to know that stay in bed means stay in bed.

coffeetofunction · 13/01/2023 07:19

I've been having some similar issues in recent weeks and finding my sleep thief in bed with me during the night. I bought her a lovely pink teddy weight blanket last week and it's been a game changer, she's slept in bed and remained in bed since it was put on her bed. It wasn't expensive about £16 plus p&p

BigBare · 10/02/2023 00:23

@carlylovespies every child's situation is unique and as I'm looking to deal with my 9yo daughter's I just wanted to know if you've had any luck moving yours forward over the last month or so?

Felicity42 · 10/02/2023 00:45

Perhaps she's checking on you.
She worried something will happen to you when she isn't there or she's asleep.
So she needs to stay up and keep checking in with you.

Has she been upset by the recent earthquakes or other news on the TV or radio?
Maybe something was said at school.

Could she be a sensitive child and picks up on things. I'd try to keep news programmes or loud talk about the news etc to a minimum.

Reassure her by saying things before she goes to sleep... Such as

'you go to sleep I'll be safe and sound downstairs doing the dishes (make it something boring) ' or you can go through a list of everyone in the house...'Dad is safe downstairs, Brother is safely tucked up in bed, Granny is safe, you are very safe tucked and I am safe and I'm not going anywhere' and 'I'll look after everything while you go to sleep'.

So say stuff related to safety and reassurance. And mention it's the grown-ups job to keep everyone safe.

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