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11 month old - sleep training advice re self soothing

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PoTayToes80 · 08/01/2023 21:33

Hiya,

Could do with some advice re sleep training for my 11 month old. Some background: we've never sleep trained as generally he's a reasonably good sleeper, he does a mix of 7pm-5:30am or 7pm-6;30 with a wakeup around 3/4. He's currently on 2 naps a day.

The issue is he mostly doesn't self settle and it seems to be getting worse. He went through a phase at 6 months where he was self settling multiple times a week and I thought he would naturally learn it but he hasn't. This means that bedtime and night-time wake-ups can take multiple attempts to get him in the cot without disrupting him. During a night-time wake-up it can often take 3-5 attempts and last night we had to bring him into bed with us. Or I find myself getting stuck with him napping on me during the day because I can't put him down.

I really want to crack this, because I'm returning to work soon and he's going to nursery and I'm starting a new job at the same time so I can't afford to be up for hours at a time in the night with him! I really don't do well without sleep. Him not self settling is also becoming an issue when we need someone to babysit as it's really hard for them to get him to sleep.

I also genuinely think he's capable of it - there will be several occasions a week when I think I've bungled an arms to cot transition when he'll open his eyes, look at me, give a little grizzle and then turn over and go to sleep.

We're on a prolonged holiday at the moment with lots of moving about so he's been out of routine but we've now got 10 clear days at his grandparents to have a go at this (otherwise it's going to be difficult for at least 6 weeks before we can try due to jet lag, starting nursery etc) and I'd like to try while we have some support around us and aren't having to work at the same time.

I do not want to do CIO or co-sleeping. Neither of those work for me. I'm tentatively open to CC or gentler methods. He doesn't get truly upset when put down, it's more just grizzling crying. I've tried shush pat (admittedly inconsistently) in the past and I think he just become frustrated seeing me there in the room not picking him up, which is what makes me think CC might be the one for him. I don't think I believe the scare stories about it but I still can't but feel a little guilty for thinking about it.

Would really like to hear from anyone who has successfully taught an older baby to self settle. Looking for non-judgmental feedback from people who are open-minded to different sleep training methods, please.

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PoTayToes80 · 08/01/2023 21:38

And just to clarify - I'm not proposing stopping cuddling my baby before bedtime or when he wakes and cries in the night. I would just like to know that we can put him down again and that he will be happy to drift off to sleep even if he's not 100% there already.

I've also seen some advice in the thread below this so will read that too.

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PoTayToes80 · 08/01/2023 22:38

Sorry, one more thing - from reading I think you're not meant to pick the baby up during CC / Ferber, just soothe via patting etc. Has anyone done this method by picking the baby up to give them a cuddle each time? This would be my preference but I know its not what the methods recommend.

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BabyOnBoard90 · 09/01/2023 07:26

PoTayToes80 · 08/01/2023 22:38

Sorry, one more thing - from reading I think you're not meant to pick the baby up during CC / Ferber, just soothe via patting etc. Has anyone done this method by picking the baby up to give them a cuddle each time? This would be my preference but I know its not what the methods recommend.

Picking child up will just wake/ alert them again, leading to greater frustration from my experience.

Best just to pat and leave so they learn to self-soothe

wheredyaparklouissss · 09/01/2023 07:40

If I'm really upset I can't self-soothe. I'm 41.

LucysTamborine · 09/01/2023 12:05

Hello! We always rocked DS to sleep - then I needed an emergency op on my stomach. We still continued with the rocking for a little while as the op happened while DS was poorly too (hell week basically!).

However it was shit for DP and we thought once DS and I are both well we'd start to get out of the habit. I'm not bothered if it happens gradually, no particular deadline. DS is 18m.

It helps that he's recently started to carry a teddy bear around, so teddy comes to bed. We also got a stars projector. The routine is now -bath, bfeed, books, projector on, DS and teddy in bed.

I've been staying in the room with him. He does cry, but on and off. He also stands up. If he starts to sound more upset, I gently lie him down and stroke his head. Eventually he will lie still and fall asleep while I'm stroking his head. I'm hoping to drop the head stroking at some point. I think for now, getting used to falling asleep in his bed from being wide awake, with no rocking is a good 1st step for us. It takes about 1/2 hr.

This is quite a long way to ask - have you thought about getting a projector? DS loves it, and it's a bed time treat for him. When he's lying down he watches the stars, and I think this is relaxing and helps him get sleepy. He also likes to play with the ribbon on his teddy - I think this is also soothing for him. Does your DS have a comforter at all?

DS tends to wake at 5.30 and I do still rock him then as I'm really scared he won't go back to sleep if I don't haha. One step at a time I guess...

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