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10 month old awake for hours at a time during the night and I'm losing my mind

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AvocadoSoup · 21/12/2022 03:53

Thank you in advance for reading this, it's a long one and I'm v emotional and sleep deprived so hopefully it makes sense and someone has some words of wisdom or something new to try.

The last week or so my son seems to have developed the habit of waking somewhere between 1am and 3am and then not going back to sleep for a couple of hours.
He's never been a great sleeper but we were getting into a groove where he would only really wake once after we had gone to bed(with a couple of quick ones while we were still up and about), at about 2am for a bottle and then straight back down again and asleep until morning. This was big progress compared to his sleep in months gone by.
We have tried it all previously but I've never felt comfortable with leaving him to cry. We stuck with gradual retreat for many many weeks at one point and this included putting him down awake etc. Eventually we ditched it as it didn't work.
We have a consistent bedtime routine of bath, bottle bed every night. Low stimulation. White noise. Only a small red light for night wakings and little to no interaction when he does.
He's breastfed during the day and a very good eater of solids.
He's a very active baby and took his first steps about a week ago. I read everywhere that half the issue is that babies want to 'practice new skills ' at certain developmental milestones but feel this is a bit of a cop out as he gets lots of time to do this in the day and that's not what he's doing at night.

On a USUAL night waking, what happens is he'll cry out as usual, I'll go in and pick him up (he's standing or sitting himself at this point and there's no way he will be made to lie back down). I put his dummy back in and hold him in my arms in the nursing chair and depending on the wake up will either hold him and he's immediate back to sleep or give him a bottle, and he's immediately back to sleep. I then wait ten mins or so and put him back down, which as long as I wait the ten mins usually goes without a hitch.
More recently though, he will cry and sit or stand up, I then do my usual but instead of him going back to sleep, he will just stare vacantly. I'll think he's just taking a bit longer to fall asleep and help him along with some face or hand strokes and he'll seem like he's going and certainly seem drowsy, but he just never quite goes or stays asleep. We try various positions and he will be in various stages of drowsiness or sometimes will get a little irritated. This is all while I'm often trying to keep my eyes open and stay calm and collected as it's probably one of the most frustrating things in the world as the realisation dawns that I'll probably be at this for a couple of hours and can't leave or sleep myself 🫠 Sometimes, and the most annoying thing if I'm honest, he'll start trying to climb up me or get up and laugh/play. Which is lovely any other time but harrowing when all you want is for him to sleep!! I'll try most things during this time, offering boob and bottle, strokes, rocking in the chair, everything(!) until eventually he falls asleep and stays asleep after about 2 hrs and if feels like it was all useless and just a case of waiting for him to be tired again anyway and absolutely nothing to do with anything I did.
Then sometimes he'll stay down again until morning or sometimes it's round 2 a few hours later 😫
I should also say, if I put him down in the cot, it's either tears or trying to play and if I leave the room it's like I've broken his heart and I can't do it. I can't face cry it out so please do not suggest this as I haven't got that in me.
I cannot carry on this way though.

His routine is up between 630 and 730, boob, breakfast and then nap 1 between about 10 and 11am. Lunch at 12 and nap 2 between about 2 and 3pm. Never let him sleep past 3 or 330 if I feel he really needs it.
We try to get outside every day, have activities most mornings, lots of time for walking and physical play etc. He is going to bed full and happy and a good temperature.
I don't know if anyone can help, we've never had much luck before when paying for sleep consultants etc, it's always been a case of waiting for things to improve on his terms anyway but I really am struggling at the moment.
My partner "helps" by taking him most mornings for a couple of hours but it's no replacement for good quality night sleep and is always after he's brought him to me to feed first thing anyway so my sleep is still broken, I then struggle to get back to sleep and stay asleep and before I know if he's bringing him back up at 930ish to get him dressed and ready for nap time. My partner works antisocial hours so never does bedtime and almost never gets up in the night. Tackling him and his lack of help is a side issue we should leave for now! Assume I am doing this on my own though is my point, as I invariably am.

Sorry this is so long! I am desperate. I can't remember the last full night's sleep I had and I'm so worried about how I'll cope when I'm back to work in a couple of months.

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Baconand · 21/12/2022 04:07

This is a short answer to a long post. It is just a development leap, it will pass. This is normal and it is not forever.
There’s no magic solution sadly. But you will survive it and you won’t even remember it.

My DD was a fairly horrendous sleeper, I understand how you feel but once you are out the other side I can honestly say the time flies.

I made myself a temporary bed next to the cot and I used to fall asleep again before her I think. But I never left her to cry as it wasn’t my thing (we co-slept till 9 months and BF until 26 months).

Suzi888 · 21/12/2022 04:17

Agree with pp. Normal. Some people get lucky with a good sleeper, but on the whole a baby/toddler will not sleep through.

Mochatatts · 21/12/2022 04:21

Sorry you're having a hard time. The first year is a tough one. My daughter isn't the best sleeper either.
She's 22 months and only managing one full night a week in her cot at the moment. She usually ends up on the sofa with me or her dad.
It will pass. It is rubbish but does get better. It may improve now he's started taking steps. Try and rest when you can. It's not the same but it won't be forever.
When my daughter went through this I used to go downstairs and doze on the sofa while she played. I knew she was safe, was never properly asleep became she's noisy. I didn't interact and tried to make it as boring as possible.
I know it isn't much help when you just want to sleep x

Pirrin · 21/12/2022 04:36

Do you have space to put a small mattress or sofa cushions down on the floor next to his cot? That way you can lie 'next' to him and pat through the bars if needed, whilst also demonstrating the correct and boring sleeping protocol of lying down?! This worked for me at about 18months when I was desperate. You can also actually fall asleep yourself if he sits quietly playing, so it's a win there too!

AvocadoSoup · 21/12/2022 09:55

Thanks everyone. I did try the lying next to the cot thing but he wasn't taking the hint and became upset that I wasn't holding him (but fidgety when I was!).
I wasn't aware this was normal at all as all the articles I found online mentioned night waking and longer to settle but nothing about them just being wide eyed and full of beans for a couple of hours at a time. So although it would be great to have a magic solution, I knew that wasn't going to happen and at least I am reassured that others have been here and out the other side...

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LGBirmingham · 21/12/2022 10:05

@AvocadoSoup how many naps is lo taking? Have they recently dropped to two? If so it could well be what is causing it. You probably just have to wait it out I reckon. Sorry I know that isn't that helpful but it will likely pass.

Baconand · 21/12/2022 10:11

AvocadoSoup · 21/12/2022 09:55

Thanks everyone. I did try the lying next to the cot thing but he wasn't taking the hint and became upset that I wasn't holding him (but fidgety when I was!).
I wasn't aware this was normal at all as all the articles I found online mentioned night waking and longer to settle but nothing about them just being wide eyed and full of beans for a couple of hours at a time. So although it would be great to have a magic solution, I knew that wasn't going to happen and at least I am reassured that others have been here and out the other side...

At around that age DD was doing hot laps around the cot and babbling non stop. It is their brain processing all they are learning. It will end. I found the wonder weeks uncannily accurate for predicting the development leaps.
Mind you DD had a spell recently (she is 3) of belting out Jingle Bells at 3am so whilst I say it improves…..🙈

Notonyournellykelly · 21/12/2022 10:13

We also had this with our DCs. It isn't anything you are doing 'wrong' and I don't think sleep training would magically fix it even if you were up for doing it, which you're not. It is just a developmental stage and it will most likely pass.

It is very hard though. I remember it and it feels relentless, so you have my sympathies

muddlingthrou · 21/12/2022 10:17

My LO went through this last month and I thought I was going to die! All previous sleep regressions were a joke compared to this one... my DH and I ended up giving up and taking turns to sit up with LO for an hour or two at 3am on alternate days until the phase passed. It took about two weeks, and stopped as suddenly as it started. Hope you get some decent sleep soon!

AvocadoSoup · 21/12/2022 13:49

LGBirmingham · 21/12/2022 10:05

@AvocadoSoup how many naps is lo taking? Have they recently dropped to two? If so it could well be what is causing it. You probably just have to wait it out I reckon. Sorry I know that isn't that helpful but it will likely pass.

He dropped to two naps from three back in mid October

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AvocadoSoup · 21/12/2022 13:52

muddlingthrou · 21/12/2022 10:17

My LO went through this last month and I thought I was going to die! All previous sleep regressions were a joke compared to this one... my DH and I ended up giving up and taking turns to sit up with LO for an hour or two at 3am on alternate days until the phase passed. It took about two weeks, and stopped as suddenly as it started. Hope you get some decent sleep soon!

I agree, was saying to my partner this morning that this is without doubt the hardest stage and there have been some stages where he used to wake every 45 mins!
Hopefully we are half way through this delightful phase then 🤞🏻
@baconand did you stay in the room with your little one whilst they were doing the laps and babbling etc? I feel redudant when I'm in there with him, but then he's very upset if I leave!

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Winter789Mermaid · 21/12/2022 13:59

You have my sympathy it’s horrid my first child was a non-sleeper waking up 1-3hrs every night for 4yrs… she’s now a teenager competitive sportswoman does 16hrs a week training. She intelligent and always needed less sleep than average! No amount of sleep “training” worked just do whatever you need to keep functioning that works for you.
my second just put her down and she slept no sleep training required just a good routine. You don’t choose what you get you just have to survive!

Baconand · 21/12/2022 14:23

AvocadoSoup · 21/12/2022 13:52

I agree, was saying to my partner this morning that this is without doubt the hardest stage and there have been some stages where he used to wake every 45 mins!
Hopefully we are half way through this delightful phase then 🤞🏻
@baconand did you stay in the room with your little one whilst they were doing the laps and babbling etc? I feel redudant when I'm in there with him, but then he's very upset if I leave!

Yes I stayed in the room on my temporary bed so I could sleep. But I also developed a way of using my phone under the cot so I could either listen to something with headphones, so my emails or shopping etc so it didn’t feel like wasted time. I spent a huge amount of time down there in the first 2 years. I had a really comfy set up 😂

I’d often wake up at 5am with no idea how long I’d been there. Sometimes the cats would join me. I can sleep anywhere though to be fair. And I’d rather sleep somewhere.

MrsB902 · 22/12/2022 11:08

No advice unfortunately but solidarity! My previous good sleeper now wakes up 4-5 times per night screaming blue murder. I’m exhausted but just keep telling myself it’s a phase and it will pass - there is so much going on developmentally at this age and even if your little one isn’t necessarily practising his new skills at night it might just be that his mind is too busy to shut down and sleep. It’s awful but it shouldn’t last too long hopefully, sending sleepy vibes your way!

Geordielass91 · 10/06/2024 04:48

Please tell me people did this pass did it last long 😭 I am currently going through this with 10 months old

ShowOfHands · 11/06/2024 17:02

Geordielass91 · 10/06/2024 04:48

Please tell me people did this pass did it last long 😭 I am currently going through this with 10 months old

You might have more luck starting a new thread. As you can see, people will reply to the original question rather than the person who bumped the thread.

I'm our case, these regressions usually lasted a few weeks.

shardlakem · 12/06/2024 20:18

I've been through this too. We did some gentle sleep training with a pick up put down method - we waited up to 10 minutes before going in for a super quick cuddle and within a few days he had learnt to settle himself. It felt horrible at first and like I was leaving him to cry it out but it really helped, he now sleeps through the night and even if he wakes up will settle himself.
Your daily routine sounds brilliant, it is just he is relying on you to help him sleep and he needs to learn to do this himself.
Try and nap in the day when he naps if you can, get early nights, I promise this won't last forever!

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