When did it get better without sleep training

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Exactly that. Without some form of sleep training (across the spectrum) did it get better on its own? If so.. when? Am at a crossroads.

For us things got dramatically better when our daughter was around 10 months and now she will only wake up in the night if she’s not very well. Hope this helps!

10-11 months we started getting three-hour blocks. Started “evening weaning” at that point: daddy doing bedtime and wake-ups for the first part of the night and I’d only feed and cosleep after midnight. 13-14 months we’d get some good nights with only 2-4 wake-ups. 19 months she slept through, randomly. After that it improved in leaps and bounds. Night-weaned at 21 months, took one night. She sleeps like shit at 3.5yo though.

The term sleep training is massively misused because often people think it means leaving your baby to cry when it’s actually just a blanket term for helping your baby sleep without a crutch that you provide. Ie, I sleep trained by baby from birth by putting her down with white noise, swaddle and picking her up whenever she cried out but when she calmed I’d put her back in the cot for her to fall asleep independently.

You can do gentle methods and I don’t see any reason to continue miserable nights sleep without doing anything about it. Sleep training doesn’t have to involve crying (but quickest results will be controlled crying, only appropriate at 6 months +)

@ShirleyPhallus This is what we did with our son and we've never had problems with him sleeping either :) No idea if it will work the same way with number two though 😂

At 14 months my breast fed co sleeper was night weaned and started sleeping well in his own bed. No sleep training needed.

I think you're right @ShirleyPhallus

I had thought about a stay and support method. She is 10 months. Her sleep went to pot at around 8 months and never recovered. She went down tonight at 19:10, woke at 20:00 and I've just finished rocking her for 1hr 20. My back is in bits and I'm a miserable cow. I'd read a lot about sleep training and guilted myself out of it. But I imagine a lot of what they say pertains to cry it out? I feel as though the scales are tipping. Surely having a miserable, exhausted, resentful mother in the day is not good.

I pass no judgement on whatever people do. Sleep deprivation is hideous and I totally get why people turn to sleep training whatever it might be.

I never had so much as a twinge in my back when I was pregnant and thought I got away with it. I'm paying for it now

I think DS slept through for the first time at about 8 months. I remember his sleep just slowly improved as the months went by. Between 8 months and about 15 months he was only waking once or maybe twice and sometimes slept through.

2 years and 2.5 years…. Sorry! But never sleep trained. Settled every wake up and sleep very well now, no issues. It was brutal as mine woke every hour more or less. I was a zombie.

The thing is that they have sleep regressions at various months so some get away with it, some are hit really hard by them and others feel they’ve swerved them then get them anyway

We ended up doing Ferber with one child for the reasons you’ve said and it was great, hard but really worked. A few nights of returning to crying child at intervals to soothe them and then slept through the night on about night 3. It’s not for everyone and I think true cry it out is cruel but it does work. You have to stick it out though.