What time does your 3.5 year old go to bed

[Mazzatron]

... and what time do they wake up! Roughly.

Ours goes to bed between 7:15 and 7:30 and gets up anything from 4:30 - 5:30.
He doesn't nap anymore.

Yes we've tried a Gro clock, reward charts, black out blinds, white noise etc
He's not the type to get into bed with us and snuggle back to sleep. Once he is up he is UP and at it. He often wakes our 1 year old too who can't handle being up that early. Tbh neither can the 3 year old, he's usually pretty emotional by afternoon.

We moved house 2 months ago and prior to this he was waking around 6:15 which was so much more palatable!

Should I try a later bed time?

6.30pm. Wakes at 6/6.30am, doesn’t nap.

7:30. Wakes between 6-7. No nap

1. Usually up between 6:30-7, although can be earlier.

Bed between 7.30pm and 8pm, up between 6am and 7pm, occasionally later. No nap.

7 to 7.30 up at 7am/7.30am sometimes later if she's tired. No nap.

God I miss the nap days.

Don't try a later bed time, it won't affect wake up time and you'll have an even more tired toddler on your hands. Other than that, I have no advice but sympathies 💐 DS has always slept in til 7 earliest

My son is autistic so sleep patterns different for us but usually put to bed at 8 and goes to sleep at 10:30/11 and wakes at 8am.

Others I know the same age are more like 7pm - 6am

3 year old here. Bedtime is usually 8pm; on days when he doesn't nap, he's asleep pretty quickly. If he's napped (which he does at nursery), he won't go to sleep until 9pm or so. Normally up around 7ish, give or take.

6:30pm and wakes between 7-7:30. No nap.

My 3 year old goes down between 7.30-8.15 and sleeps till 7.30 ish. Her gro clock changes at 7.15 and it really does work for her she's understood it since she just turned 2.

Between 8-8:30pm and she wakes up at 7

And if she wakes up earlier she has to stay in her room playing with toys or her kindle until the gro clock changes to sun at 7am

715-615ish. No nap.

Exactly the same as my son

2.5 year old so I know not what you asked, but I empathise! 7.30-8 asleep for ours and awake 5.30. Nothing we have done including everything you've written has made a difference. I was hoping I would be able to bribe him at 3.5 yrs! A matchbox car for every day he sleeps past 6.30... we'll see!

Maybe try earlier bedtime for a week or so? Sounds counter productive but maybe they are over tired.

6:15/6:30pm shower, then teeth PJs etc. 7pm lights out, sometimes doesn't actually go to sleep until closer to 7:30pm , wakes up between 7and 7:30am but knows he's not allowed to get up/come out of his room before groclock turns yellow at 7:15am. Tonight he didn't go to sleep until nearly 7:45pm in the car because we were on our way home from a family event. He'll probably sleep in a bit tomorrow. He has a yoto player, so gets a story from us, then his choice of yoto story and his cup of milk, he has a small nightlight on.
This was a long time coming, he didn't sleep through reliably until almost 3! He'll be 4 in December. He hasn't napped since he was two.

Oh going to bed nicely, no getting up coming downstairs at bedtime and staying in his own bed all night earn him marbles for his marble jar (when it's full he gets a prize), asking with a few other simple things like making his bed, getting ready quickly when asked, brushing his teeth (letting us) nicely etc.

Mine goes to bed at 8pm and I wake her up at 8.30 on nursery days. If eldest is needing a lift to school then I wake her up at 8.

Thanks everyone. Guess I just have a 'genuine early riser' as the health visitor put it. He totally understands his Gro clock and he followed it for a brief spell but now he just defies it. He very occasionally stays in his room and plays or goes back there with a prompt but he's very noisy in play and still wakes us all up.

He's definitely over tired sometimes but if he does nap and then go to bed later he still gets up at 5 so the cycle continues.

Starting to think the only answer is coffee

@RewildingAmbridge we do a similar thing with felt balls we call wow balls. He's not particularly bothered unfortunately. He's very much an "in the moment type of guy"

6.45/7ish usually but it does vary as we are not very organised She gets up about 6. She knows to get her tablet and watch something quietly until the sun comes up on her clock now though.

@Mazzatron your wee boy is exactly the same as mine. Bed 7/730 and up at 5-6 (this morning was 515). He ignores his gro clock, he just wants to be with us. We’ve never slept with him in our bed so he doesn’t associate our bed with sleep, even when we bring him in! When he comes into our bedroom early he wakes his 7month old sister so one of us needs to shoot out of bed to avoid that. It’s painful but coffee is key.

Asleep by 6, awake anytime between 7-9. Naps once or twice a week.

Sympathies OP my daughter was a very early riser as a toddler, regardless of bedtime! We tried everything 😴
On the bright side is now a teenager who is up independently at 7am getting ready for school. Every cloud...... you'll get through it!