Sleep training not working?

[Owensmum19]

Hello,
After 8 months of sleep deprivation (I’m talking up 5 times a night on a good night abs usually 8 plus) we decided to ST and got The Sleep Chief to help. Things have gotten better but we still have a baby who doesn’t respond to CC during the night. He just keeps crying and crying. I had night weaned him, but the sleep train said that since he didn’t respond to CC perhaps he is genuinely hungry. My issue is that when I do feed him during the night it triggers more wake ups and I’m back to square one.

Does anyone have any advice? My main issue is with wake ups after 12. Baby (9mo) will just keep crying. It breaks my heart but I also can’t go back to what we were doing

Dream feeding didn't work for my babies either. I thought it was more for tiny babies anyway?

My other thought was that daytime sleep looks a bit light and there's a long time between the end of the afternoon nap and bedtime. I think I got two 90 minute to 2 hour naps in (or tried to).

Self settling is good, can you add a comforter for cuddles too?

Forgot to ask if he has his own room? I think we did own room and no baby monitor - just doors open across the landing. That way grumbling/moaning/light crying doesn't wake you up but serious crying will.

Could you add a cat nap at about 3.30 and put him to bed later?

A 9 month old baby doesn't need feeding overnight if they're getting the right amount of milk/food in the daytime. If feeding at night doesn't work for you and you have nightweaned already I wouldn't restart feeding him personally. CC not working doesn't mean he's hungry.

His last wake window is 5 hours which I think is probably too big for his age - he's potentially going to bed overtired and this could be causing the frequent waking. I would maybe make his morning nap a bit longer and push the lunchtime nap back to 1-3 so that then his last wake window is max 4 hours.

I wouldn't make his bedtime later, this can make early waking worse (confusingly)!

It's good that he self settles at the first drop off, so he can do it. Now it's about training him to stay asleep through the sleep cycles. It sounds like he wakes every cycle almost.

I agree the last wake window is quite long, have you tried an earlier bed time?