7month old with 5am wake ups and 30 min naps

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DS is nearly 7 months old and only having 30 min naps and wakes at 5:00. Would love some advice

I’ve tried huckleberry sweet spot to time the naps (no difference) and gently rousing him just before I suspect he’s going to wake up to get him to nod off again, popping the dummy in again. That idea is a disaster! He’s not waking from hunger. He’s pretty grumpy when he wakes up but getting him back to sleep is impossible. He is able to link sleep cycles at night but he seems to not be able to during the day. Are longer naps just a thing that will come over time or is there anything I can do?

A 6 or 630 wake up would be far more civilized but I’ve no idea how to tweak things. Sometimes he’ll chatter away in his cot and we don’t go in until he starts getting upset but usually it’s a feed and we’re up for the day

Other info that might be helpful: Started weaning about 4 weeks ago, otherwise EBF, 5 feeds a day. Naps in his cot in his own room the majority of the time.

Naps 8ish, 12ish and 4ish. Feeds every roughly every 3.5 hours, so about 2 hours after a feed I’m putting him down, whenever he starts to seem tired. Bedtime at 7 after bath and story.

We did a gentler method of Ferber about a month ago because feeding him to sleep no longer worked. Before Ferber, the only way to get him to nap was in the car or a walk in the pram, so this is a definite improvement and I feel a bit greedy asking for more but 5am is exhausting me and I go to bed when the baby does!

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Can you try resettling when lo wakes? Or leaving lo for a bit before going in? To try and encourage more sleep?

Personally, I wouldn't have that first nap till 9am. But that's what I did and helped early waking.

Is lo tired when you're putting them down? Maybe a longer awake time?

9am nap. If 30 min nap, I would put down at 1230pm, on a full belly. I know you broke the feed to sleep. But maybe lunch at 1145 or 12?

At 7 months, I think I was doing about

9am till 10am nap.
1pm nap usually till 220pm or 230pm
445pm 30 min nap.
8pm bed.

A later bedtime might help?

Sorry probably not much help. But throwing ideas out that helped us.

I could have wrote this myself! I’ve posted a similar thread too about trying to get a routine right for a baby who is a 30 min napper, and a 5am waker!

Like clockwork my lo wakes at 5am every morning. I bring her into our bed and she drifts back off around 5.30 until 6 which gives us all that extra bit of sleep, but then we’re up at 6.
This morning she had bottle at 6.45, porridge at 8.15 and went down for her first nap just before 9 which is a 3hr wake window. Currently sleeping but doubt it’ll be more than 30 mins!

Her afternoon nap if in the cot, I can 70% of the time get her back off after she wakes after 30 minutes by some gently patting and shushing but today I’m going to do what another poster suggested here, give her milk AND lunch before putting her down for that nap to see if the full stomach helps. Here’s hoping.

No advice except everything you have probably tried, dark room, background noise (my lo likes traffic ) blackout blind, dummy, comforter etc.
Really sympathise as you just don’t get that respite in the day from a long nap so you can take 10 minutes for yourself, let alone the guilt of feeling like you could be doing more for them!