I can't stand nights anymore

[popgoesperfection]

I have posted many times before about ds2 sleep, but the older he gets the worse his sleep is getting. And I'm at a complete loss. I feel like I've tried all the tricks in the book and it just isn't working. I dread night time because I know I won't be sitting relaxing because he'll be up and I won't be sleeping because he'll be up. We've had the same routine since he was about 6 months old, never get him out of his cot when he wakes, don't talk to him, dark bedroom, has a comforter. NOTHING works!! Pffft, I just need to vent.

Oh he's 2 btw.

No advice I’m afraid - exact same boat with my 2yr old DD. Hate nights too, DH currently upstairs trying to her to sleep as I gave up. She’ll be awake in the night too, last night it was for over 3 hours. My back is literally breaking from lifting her, but if we don’t, she’ll scream the house down.
I hate the days too at the moment cause I’m so tired and me & DH are just snapping at each other.
Sending

Well you say you’ve had the same routine since 6 months but that nothing works…both can’t be true as sticking with the same routine means you haven’t tried different approaches?

Thankyou for your reply Isn't it hard work and just shit sometimes! Currently I have covid too so the fatigue from that and the constant night wakings is wiping me out. Has your dd always been a bad sleeper?

I mean the same bedtime routine, as in we read a book, have cuddles then he goes in his cot awake and I leave the room. When he wakes I don't go to him straight away then when I do as soon as he sees me lays down. I leave and he stands up again. Rinse repeat.

Sleep train

How though? I have a 7yo and they share a bedroom.

@popgoesperfection yep, always a pretty shit sleeper and like your DS, seems to be getting worse not better.
We are the same with routine, book, cuddles, bed awake. For a good while she was good at going to sleep herself but waking in the night, now she’s rubbish at going to bed and rubbish through the night. So draining.

@popgoesperfection

How though? I have a 7yo and they share a bedroom.

2 year old goes to bed before the 7 year old?

@pengu I sleep trained after paying £350 for a consultant, followed it to a T, still do, and we don’t have a child that sleeps through any more than 3 nights in a row.

@LillyMac500 it's like the older he gets he's able to fight it more because he knows he wants to be up if you get what I mean.
@pengu yes he goes to bed earlier, but what do you suggest when he wakes at 10, 1:30, 4?? And 7yo is in bed too?

[quote popgoesperfection]@LillyMac500 it's like the older he gets he's able to fight it more because he knows he wants to be up if you get what I mean.
@pengu yes he goes to bed earlier, but what do you suggest when he wakes at 10, 1:30, 4?? And 7yo is in bed too? [/quote]
3-4 days of less sleep to break the bad habits. It's a long game.

What happens with the 7 year old when the 2 year old wakes now?

It depends on the time that he wakes, if it's say half 4/5 it wakes 7yo up.

@popgoesperfection

It depends on the time that he wakes, if it's say half 4/5 it wakes 7yo up.

So sleep training probably won't be worse

Is he still in a cot that he can't get out of? It seems contraintuitive, but would a floorbed be an idea? It is what helped us (although didn't solve the problem completely). If she now doesn't want to sleep she can quietly read something or talk with her teddies. Then she falls asleep. We mostly find her in her bed.

Have 7yo in with you for a couple of nights or stay at grandparents, while you sleep train. I would do controlled crying.
Or my ace card is to send the non sleeper to Grandparents - I did this with both mine and they slept through for grandparents!!! I was honestly so shocked! I had only asked them to have ds so I could gather my senses ready to start sleep training the following night.