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Every night 1 year old drinks 1.5 litres of water. Normal?

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MsMorris · 24/12/2021 02:09

Hi,

I introduced water to wean off my daughter from breastfeeding, hoping she would sleep through the night. It's made things worse. She's constantly waking up for water. She soaks through about 4 nappies every night. Feels like I have a newborn again.

She is well fed solids and has a nutritious, balanced diet.

Is it normal that she goes through this much water every night without fail? I don't know what to do.

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WaterBottle123 · 25/12/2021 07:14

OP have you tried switching the water for milk?!? Most babies cannot get enough calories from weaning foods, she's quite possibly just hungry and she doesn't know water isn't food?

So many ppl fall down the trap of thinking a plate of carrots etc is a lot of food, but there no calories, which would explain low weight gain?

My daughter probably drank that much milk at night, at that age.

Best of luck

Mummyoflittledragon · 25/12/2021 07:26

@WaterBottle123

OP have you tried switching the water for milk?!? Most babies cannot get enough calories from weaning foods, she's quite possibly just hungry and she doesn't know water isn't food?

So many ppl fall down the trap of thinking a plate of carrots etc is a lot of food, but there no calories, which would explain low weight gain?

My daughter probably drank that much milk at night, at that age.

Best of luck

Agreed, which is what I was trying to say upthread. Weaning off the breast for me doesn’t mean giving a bit of cows milk in a cup. It means follow on formula if a child needs it. As I said, I haven’t done it but dd breastfed several times a day until well over 2. Then suddenly come 2.5 she suddenly curtailed.

Garman · 25/12/2021 08:01

Follow on milk is just a gimmick created to get around the marketing laws for Number 1 stage formula, you could stick with that stage formula or move to cows milk, no point buying/giving follow on milk.

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/12/2021 08:04

I wondered about diabetes too (and would see GO) but she’s only drinking excessively at night?

What’s the temperature in her bedroom?

nadgersbadgers · 25/12/2021 09:11

@OvenBakedOwl you can't have that opinion on Mumsnet you know. Everyone must panic, go to a&e and LTB. No one can just calm the fuck down and look at things objectively for 5 minutes. Merry Christmas

Butterfly44 · 25/12/2021 09:48

So the excess drinking, excess urinating and not putting on weight are 3 of the 4 T's of Type 1 diabetes. The 4th being tired. I'm appalled A&E sent you home. The pharmacy finger prick is reassuring - 5 is good but it's important to know when that was taken ie. had she not eaten in a while. We went to A&E on an empty stomach and DD had normal readings....it was only after eating and a retest confirmed I was right to come in. You can get glucose urine strips from the pharmacy- they helped me when diagnosing before we headed into hospital. Really hope it isn't. Keep an eye...a week is a long time and I'd definitely try and get an answer before then x

morechocolateneededtoday · 25/12/2021 10:18

@OvenBakedOwl

Ridiculous frenzy from some posters. Sounds like habit and a need to suck / soothe to me . Try a dummy for goodness sake and giving water in a cup

Of course you get this looked at which you're doing . But some posters are just ridiculous

The GP, paramedic and hospital doctor all agree the symptoms warrant further questioning at least and possible investigation, yet there's apparent 'frenzy' 🙄

As I have said more than once, it is impossible to assess the urgency from the info on here but there are definite alarm bells where further questioning and possible investigation is needed urgently. Based alone on OPs posts, waiting until Friday is not appropriate.

OP, hope you got some answers and reassurance

CoopsMalloops · 25/12/2021 11:57

Any poster suggesting that other PP are frenzied and ridiculous must not have experience of a child on the edge of DKA/coma through undiagnosed type 1 diabetes.

OP glad that the finger prick test was good. As PP mention it could be behavioural but the symptoms DC has displayed are the first markers for type 1, so I fully understand PP suggesting type 1.

I hope she is doing well.

timeisnotaline · 25/12/2021 12:08

@OvenBakedOwl

Ridiculous frenzy from some posters. Sounds like habit and a need to suck / soothe to me . Try a dummy for goodness sake and giving water in a cup

Of course you get this looked at which you're doing . But some posters are just ridiculous

I hope you’re not in healthcare. I know from your reply you don’t have family who are T1.

KittenCatcher · 25/12/2021 12:26

Posters are not ridiculous, especially those who work in healthcare or have diabetes in the family. Ignoring warning signs and offering no constructive advice at all is ridiculous.

Spidey66 · 25/12/2021 12:45

I'm a HCP too....albeit a mental health nurse working with adults but we have to be able to recognise potential medical emergencies, of which type 1 diabetes is one. It's common sense that babies and small children can deteriorate rapidly. I'm one who advised getting the baby seen ASAP. I'm delighted the baby is ok but wouldn't advise any different.

lightswitchmoment · 25/12/2021 13:12

@nadgersbadgers

I really think this stressful whip up a frenzy response on Mumsnet is really unhelpful.

This could behavioural, or medical - and not necessarily type 1 DM.

Also a finger prick Blood glucose doesn't diagnose anything other than the blood glucose at that specific time.

OP I hope that you get some stress free rest and calm. I'm absolutely sure your child is completely fine and will be fine until seen by other HCPs

A&E clearly not indicated. She needs to be referred to an outpatient paediatric department. If the GP thought she was at deaths door and needed intervention they would have sent straight to A&E or called an ambulance.

T1 diabetes is a medical emergency. My dd was diagnosed on her finger prick blood glucose alone. She was only slightly above normal but had all the classic symptoms. There was no DKA as we caught it early but it would have become very serious in a matter of hours had we waited for a blood test in a week! Despite being not unwell in diagnosis she was admitted for three days for education. We were lucky.

Shocking treatment by a&e. A finger prick is the least they could do. We didn't even have to wait.

OvenBakedOwl · 25/12/2021 20:24

@timeisnotaline are you hard of reading? I very clearly and specifically said ' of course you get this looked into ...'

But you decided to overlook that boring bit and froth about the rest

OvenBakedOwl · 25/12/2021 20:25

@KittenCatcher another one who's hard of reading. Again, I clearly state that of course you have to get this looked into...

Easier for you to ignore that bit of constructive advise though ...

OvenBakedOwl · 25/12/2021 20:27

@nadgersbadgers ah some common sense at last! Baby has been seen, no immediate concerns, blood test shows all is likely to be well. Child not drinking to excess during the day. My advice was to get it looked into ..

But no. No no. We must all be completely mental and whip the OP up, despite doctors actually seeing the child in person and expressing no immediate worries

Spidey66 · 25/12/2021 20:39

The child was ‘seen’ but not examined, not even a finger prick which would take all of a minute.

timeisnotaline · 25/12/2021 21:33

[quote OvenBakedOwl]@timeisnotaline are you hard of reading? I very clearly and specifically said ' of course you get this looked into ...'

But you decided to overlook that boring bit and froth about the rest [/quote]
It’s either a ‘ridiculous frenzy’ or of course you have to get this looked at ASAP. You can’t have it both ways, no one tries to get urgently seen at Christmas without good reason. It’s not a ridiculous frenzy, it’s a lot of people with experience and relevant professional backgrounds saying this must be checked. My nephew was about 9 so much older than a baby, babies go downhill so fast. He was thirsty and low in energy, seemed a pretty low key thing to get him checked up for but was immediately hospitalised for nearly 2 weeks.

KittenCatcher · 25/12/2021 21:37

OvenBakedOwl. Are you sure doctors actually saw the child in person.

Nocutenamesleft · 25/12/2021 22:00

PLEASE speak to your GP about diabetes insipidus

Very rare in children. But someone’s got to have it

IT ISNT DIABETES!!!! (Not her. I mean diabetes insipidus isn’t the normal diabetes. Just shared the same name. Stupidly)

It’s really serious. Please get them to check her osmolity and sodium levels.

nadgersbadgers · 28/12/2021 09:38

@MsMorris any updates?

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MsMorris · 01/01/2022 20:09

@nadgersbadgers Called the GP twice leading up to the blood test, requesting to speak to Dr. Got through to Dr who said can't do anything about it, and to have the blood test when the appointment is booked for. Had to wait.

Requested osmorality and sodium test, but was told until we get results back, they won't be doing anything.

Just have to wait and see.

Tried whole milk instead of water in the evenings and she still wakes up just as much. Tried giving her water from the water bottle and she still sits up and drinks.

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