8 month old multiple wakes

[User0658]

Does anyone have any tips to help my 8 month old sleep. I keep considering a sleep consultant but I'm not willing to do CIO and he can self settle so I don't know if this would even work.

I'm not sure where I am going wrong, he is down to two naps a day now

7am wake
7:30am bottle 7oz
8:30am breakfast
9:45am 1.5 hour nap (self settles)
11:30am bottle 7oz
12:30pm lunch
2pm 45 min nap (self settles)
3:30pm bottle
5:30pm dinner
6:30pm bath and ready for bed
6:45pm bottle
7pm asleep (falling asleep having the bottle but laying down as he's falling asleep)

Then we still have the 10:30pm dream feed, which we have been trying to drop for a while. We went cold turkey for 2 nights and this was unsuccessful so we are instead dropping the oz slowly.

He is waking multiple times a night. It's not hunger. Sometimes he can settle straight away and others it can be an hour long battle.

Can anyone see where I am going wrong? I am going to try and push back the last nap as I'm thinking maybe he is over tired slightly by bed time but would this be causing this frequent wakes through the night?

Any other suggestions welcome

To be honest mine woke in the night until 18 months for feeds, but they didn't nap in the morning past around 8 months, they got up around 8 am and in bed for 8.30pm so different to many households. Mine were breastfed on demand though

@gogohm he's not had a night feed in months so it's not hunger here.. I tried to see if a bottle would help a few times where he was awake for long periods in the night and it made no difference in fact it seemed to wake him up more 🤦🏻‍♀️

Definitely different for all of us. My LO would not cope without no naps and I wouldn't hear the end of it all day 😂

Your very welcome. Honestly try capping the first nap on regular basis.

I normally do 945am put down to sleep (takes about 5/10mins to get to sleep) Wake by 11am. Then 2/210pm put down to sleep until 330. She used to do 2/2.15mins sleep until 4/415pm but this stopped so I just put her to bed about 7/730pm 🤷🏼‍♀️ my lo is almost 9 months sleeps through till 630am ish, sometimes 7am.

How'd the rest of day go @user0658?

@Fancyties he woke up at 9pm as his teeth were bothering him. Then has just woken up now at 5:40am and doesn't look like he's going back to sleep 🤦🏻‍♀️. I'd like him to go back to sleep even for 20 minutes otherwise be too long between now and his first nap.

What's your current routine with your LO?

Usually 6.15am to the dot awake 😂 sometimes a little later but not often. It used to be 530am but she suddenly changed about a month a go. No matter what time she wakes I will not put her down before 945am for her nap which helped the 530am wake up. Then also I used to do 8pm bedtime which also decreased the 530am wake up but lately she wanted 7pm bedtime and seems to be OK with going past 530am wake up so far 🤞

650am/7am I get us both up. I don't go in before, unless crying. She normally chatters and coos. I give water at this point.

730am porridge
830am bottle 8oz though she is wanting it earlier and earlier now.
9am half a slice of toast or biscotti thing.
9.30am rest of milk - normally an oz someyimes 2oz
945 pop down for nap.
11am wake up. Water. Used to give snack but she doesnt want it anymore.
1215/1230pm lunch depends when she whinges for it. Sandwich, egg, cheese, frube, pitta, sometimes a puree.
130pm- 8oz bottle.
2pm- rest of bottle again normally 1/2oz.
2.05pm/210pm - sleep
330pm/340pm - awake I would let her sleep till 4pm. Any later and effects bedtime. Water
5/530pm dinner depends on her and when she wants it. I normally do fish potato, anything really.
Then depends when she finishes nap I normally do 3.5 hours (sometimes 4 again depends on her) to be in her cot, then she normally coos and gets comfy for 10/15 minutes and goes sleep.

It's not perfect and I'm sure it wouldn't suit everyone and I'm probably doing something wrong. But she has wet nappies. Happy. Eats and drinks well. Not overtired most of time obviously we all get it wrong at times.

When my lo woke at 530am.i used to offer water, and did everything to get her to sleep. Even if I held her. I will not get up at 530am 😂

Forgot to say 630pm bottle 8oz.
Reoffer again at 7pm.
Im going to have to increase note size on bedtime bottle as shes been draining it completely so will make 2 bottles tonight I don't know if that is a factor for her waking at 615am.

Just thought I mention, any changes you make takes 3 weeks give or take to make a difference to lo and for their cardiac rythme to change. So if you do 8pm bedtime for not waking at 530am.takes up to 3 weeks before you see a change. My lo is usually about a week x

Oh and it wasn't like this all the time, I literally chopped and changed until it suited her. I have read so much and written on here trying to find best routine. The one above loosely follows huckleberry routine.

@Fancyties that's interesting, pretty much same as what we are doing here now. I wonder if now my LO will sleep through but wake earlier.. today he only went back to sleep for 15 minutes after his 5:40am wake up 😴. We don't mind getting up at 6-6:30am too much. Don't want to move bedtime too late as I don't think he would cope with the last wake window. And I also like having my dinner in peace 😂. We can't have it all aye! I'll see how this goes for a week or so and maybe push it back to bed time at 7:30pm.

Just wanted to come back and update..

I don't want to jinx anything, but I think we are finally getting somewhere. At first not a lot changed but now the last week has been SO much better.. We've only had one bad night in the last week but he is teething.

He's still stirring in the night and will wake up grumbling a few times but now I can just put his dummy in and give him his comforter and he will settle himself back to sleep.

Before he would wake up and I'd have to pick him up and rock him back to sleep, sometimes he'd be wide awake for an hour or longer.

For anyone reading in the future.. The routine we are now in at 9 months

6:15am-7:15am: wake
7am - 9oz bottle
8:30am - breakfast
9:45am - 1 hour nap
11:45am - lunch
1:30pm - 9oz bottle
2pm - 1.5 hour nap
6:30pm - bath
6:45pm - 9oz bottle

7pm - bed

Thank you everyone for all your help, in particular @Fancyties

Yah that's fab. I'm glad for you and your welcome. I only said what helped me 🤷🏼‍♀️

I breastfed all my dcs and they all woke frequently until various ages.. They went through different phases, I gave up thinking this was it and they would sleep all night. I remenber having a two week old and two year old and the latter dc woke up more!!

We had good, consistent routines in place for all but just accepted the phases. Is your dc crawling or learning a new skill? That can make them restless.