Dr Jay Gordon

[dirtymonkey]

Has anyone tried Dr Jay Gordon's changing the sleep pattern in the family bed? www.drjaygordon.com/development/ap/sleep.asp
We're were just if anyone has tried this and if it worked or even if it didn't work what you thought of it.
We're thinking of trying it with our 11mth old but not sure if it would be better to try after christmas.

i think he recommends it for older babies though. (12months and up) so maybe wait until after christmas when your LO is that little bit older.
i loved that article. we didn't use it per se but it did help us.
this: "Now, he will tell you that he is angry and intensely dislikes this new routine. I believe him. He will also try to tell you that he's scared. I believe he's angry, but a baby who's had hundreds of nights in a row of cuddling is not scared of falling asleep with your hand on his back and your voice in his ear. Angry, yes. Scared, no, not really."
that made it much easier to get through the screaming (and my god did he scream!!)

Realistically it will be after christmas I just wondered if anyone had any luck with Dr. Jay he sounds too good to be true.

Realistically it will be after christmas I just wondered if anyone had any luck with Dr. Jay he sounds too good to be true.

So good I accidently posted twice!

we skipped through to step 2 and it was fine after a couple of hellish nights. But do it when you are both around during the day because NONE of you will get much sleep.
(also, not to be negative or anything but, even though DS does sleep much better now he still doesn't sleep through. but he's 2 and we just cut him off a couple of months ago so you might have more success with a younger baby)

agree with manger. We went cold turkey with DS1 on BFing every couple of hours when he was 18mo. We co-slept to ease the pain. After a month we eased the routine into his room ( he was in a toddler bed) and he was fine. DS1 still woke up a lot until he was about 2.5, but we either carried him back to his room or just let him crawl in with us.

Going to do the same with DS2 when his molars are theough - prob about 16-18 months (he's 14mo ATM).

Just read this article and found it very interesting. MY DD only 8 months though, but wondered if it would be worth it as we are going through hell and feeding her every time she wakes seems to make it worse as she gets really bad wind. However, since that seemed only way to get her back to sleep just kept on doing it. Everyone told us to try CC, so this does seem like a nicer solution, even though shes still a bit young. Anyone done it with younger baby? Even if you're not a believer for doing it so young, it must be better than alternative sleep training technqiues

pevie, a lot of babies feed a lot at the 8 - 10 month mark, even if they didn't before then. I suspect it is a largely developmental thing in the baby's brain maturity. mine certainly did and cosleeping and riding it out was the only option for us due to both dh and I in full time work and found this way everyone got more sleep. it probably feels like the lesser of two evils at the moment to you but if you are willing to put your faith in the unknown, you may find the whole cosleeping experience very rewarding in the long run.

one thing I did to ease the feed and drop off for what seemed to me like every half hr (but probably wasn't really) was to try what is described as the 'pantly pull off'. it is where you feed them but try to break the latch before they fall into a complete sleep. then keep doing it when she is more and more awake. I found that if i unlatched her and she fussed a bit, I would put her back on and try again. this way you can manage to get your baby to wake up less frequently at this age.

Kiskidee, the feeding isn't really the problem!!! She tends to be okay if I hold off feeding her a few times and only do it two or three times. However, what ends up happening is that you cant actually put her down right after the feed as the wind is so bad!!! She drops off you put her down and then she cries again, so I dont think its hunger. If we put her in bed beside us, she jumps about so much with wind and then screams and writhes in pain, so I really feel like feeding her makes it worse rather than better!!! I would be okay to feed her several times a night for a while as long as she slept soundly for a while after it. I think she has just got into habit of using breast to help her get back off to sleep and I suspect that babies of this age start waking more because they get so used o the comfort, rather than for hunger.

bm doesn't normally cause wind afaik. could it be something else she is being weaned on? i can't remember too clearly but maybe i am misremembering the 'writhing' you are talking about. I would 'shh' right close to dd's ear while patting her when she was under one to get her to calm down and (hopefully) go back to sleep. if that didn't work, i would just latch her back on and try again before she got too worked up and everyone was wide awake.

hth.

Its not the milk causing the wind, its cos shes always been an erratic feeder who pulls on and off (possibly reflux) so that she swallows lots of air. Bf her too much definately makes it worse. She will be perfectly content before feed in day and then when feeds will writhe about and get upset till huge burps come up. Problem in night is that she doesnt get burps up as often falls asleep, but then wakes up v.soon after.

The problem I can see for us (DD is 10months and she's cosleeping with me so I can get some rest) is that DD will wake, scream blue murder, then if I tried to put her down awake she'd just crawl off the bed or try and attack me or play. She needs A LOT of encouragement to sleep!

That said, I also like the 'angry and scared' paragraph as it makes a lot of sense to me. We're doing a bit of controlled crying/comforting (not exactly sure!) and DD is horribly angry with me when I do it and seems scared, but i keep telling myself that she has no reason to be as I'm always there, lift her if she gets really bad and let her hold my hand if she wants to!