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14 week old sleep.

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jupitermars1345 · 18/09/2021 13:58

This is dd2 and I find myself over thinking sleep again.
We have been blessed with a baby who sleeps v well at night
For example last night she slept 7.30-9.30 in her basket and then fed and was down again from 10.30-6
This is a regular night for her and has been for about 4 weeks now. Occasionally I roll over and put the dummy back in at 3am ish but not every night
She goes to sleep layed down in the basket with a dummy.

The last three days she isn't napping for long or often enough even if I let her nap on me / in my baby sling.
She was doing a nap from 8-10am on the school run and then 2-4pm on the next school run in the sling and maybe a 20-30 min nap on me about 12pm or in her basket but today she slept 9-9.30 and 10.30-11 ish and that's been it. She looks shattered.

I know they go through so many phases with there sleep but I just wonder what you used to do ?
I have anxiety and have found myself thinking that she hasn't sleep enough in 24 hours now .

My first was a great night sleeper but never ever got the hang of napping for longer than 30 mins until she dropped them all together

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jupitermars1345 · 18/09/2021 13:59

She's ff since birth to.
She isn't uncomfortable at all . Never been colicky etc but does grizzle and cry when tired

She takes 5-6oz 5 times in 24 hours

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TooMinty · 18/09/2021 14:02

Has she just hit that alert stage where naps are a bit harder if there's stuff going on? We used a snooze shade on the pram that helped a bit. It's harder when there's older siblings whose routine baby has to fit in with!

jupitermars1345 · 18/09/2021 14:04

I have no idea what is going on with her day sleep

She was pretty perfect most days
I just feel anxious that she isn't getting enough for herself.
Yes I have dd1 in year 1 and our school is 1.5 miles away and I don't drive so we walk it . 6 miles a day .
Maybe it'll just get better again
I certainly had many a days with dd1 not napping

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Pickle2021 · 18/09/2021 14:18

Maybe having difficulty linking sleep cycles now? It could be regression side.

jupitermars1345 · 18/09/2021 14:22

It's a bugger isn't it

It always confused me why they can stay asleep at night but not during the day after one cycle.
Like surely you know how ? 😂 My first was the same.. did 12 hours solid at night but would not nap longer than 30 ish mins ever no matter what I did
I know she has probably worked out day and night by now .

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FinallySomeNormality · 18/09/2021 14:32

No advice.. but same situation here with my 15wk old.

Sleeps all night - 7pm bedtime, dreamfeed at 10:30pm and then up for the day about 6:30am. It's lovely. Has a dummy to drift off with at night but falls out and he doesn't cry for it again all night (we don't give it to him after dreamfeed either as he's always asleep already).

During day, naps are max 45mins. Only one sleep cycle and cannot ever link them. Will sometimes cry out at 40min mark and once in a while I can rush in, pop dummy back in and then he might drift off for another 40mins. Not often though.

His naps are exceptionally short this week and it's harder to put him down for them. Pretty sure the 4m sleep regression is starting to kick in (happened at about 16wks with my first baby too).

jupitermars1345 · 18/09/2021 14:37

Sounds exactly like mine

I don't mind short naps but can't seem to make them more often
She would wake up during her naps at 30-45 minutes but would go back to sleep and now she will not and wakes crying and upset instead of happy.
She will try and sleep again but will just cry and fight it with my help.

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ballyboy · 18/09/2021 14:44

Their melatonin is higher at night so they feel sleepier and helps the link cycles.

When she wakes from nap could you try quickly getting to her and shushing and patting her to see if she goes back to sleep. Or you could go for long walks in the morning and afternoon for a few days to make sure she gets those longs naps back in her system. I'd be even aiming for 45-1hr about 9ish, two hour around 12:45-1 and then a cat nap of 30-40 mins around 4, awake by 5 for bedtime of 7.

jupitermars1345 · 18/09/2021 14:50

Have been trying long walks. She just wakes after 30 and will not sleep again even with constant movement.
Have also tried resettling after but no luck

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jupitermars1345 · 18/09/2021 14:53

Their melatonin is higher at night so they feel sleepier and helps the link cycles

This makes sense.
My first was brilliant at night

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jupitermars1345 · 18/09/2021 15:04

A week ago she would wake at 30-45 mins in the buggy but would go back to sleep if I kept moving. Now she just gets upset. Similar in the sling all though more chance of a long nap in that

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Flopsie21 · 18/09/2021 15:07

Have you got the Huckleberry app? It suggests optimal times for naps based on their previous sleep /nap awakening time and it's a godsend! These times are called sweetspots and sweetspot alert is free for the first month. I've just paid the up for the year after having s month without it and regretting not signing up immediately after the free trial. Sleep scientist best work IMHO. My DD is sleeping better in the day for it.
I use a birthing ball and bounce DD to sleep with shushing. Takes 2-5 mins, if I'm bang on the sweet spot 1-2 mins. We used a dummy for a fortnight but she then started to teeth and chewed it so never bothered with it since.

Flopsie21 · 18/09/2021 15:08

I also contact nap. If I put her down she only naps for 30-45 mins.

jupitermars1345 · 18/09/2021 15:11

I also contact nap mostly.
I'm happy for her to sleep on me / have short naps to but if she is having short sleeps I feel she needs more of them

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jupitermars1345 · 18/09/2021 15:17

She's had another 30 mins in the sling this afternoon with my partner walking around
Usually this would get us 1-2 hours but she wouldn't go back to sleep
So since 6 she has had 3 times 30 mins 🤷‍♀️

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jupitermars1345 · 18/09/2021 15:20

It's when I read online 4-5 hours day sleep for 3 months I feel stressed.
🤷‍♀️
Tbf she was doing 3-5 hours day sleep but now isn't

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Flopsie21 · 18/09/2021 15:45

Ours has only had just under 3hrs but we went out somewhere this morning. Sometimes days like this happen I think xx

Flopsie21 · 18/09/2021 15:46

She should have slept in the car enroute back but didn't!

FinallySomeNormality · 18/09/2021 19:58

@jupitermars1345

It's when I read online 4-5 hours day sleep for 3 months I feel stressed. 🤷‍♀️ Tbf she was doing 3-5 hours day sleep but now isn't
I also get stressed about this BUT... I do think we need to count the fact that they sleep many hours at night, so perhaps their day sleep needs is less? Most my friends' babies are definitely not getting 11-12hour stints at night of sleep so their babies will probably need 4hours+ during day to meet their daily sleep needs.

My baby isn't miserable during the day, despite the v short naps. So I wonder if he just doesn't need as much? My issue is more about how many naps he has per day - due to his naps being so short (longest nap was 35mins today) he has to have so many of them! I think he had 5 naps today!

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