6.5 month old waking 1.5/2 hours after going bed

[Pickle2021]

Evening.

So my LO has decided to throw a new trick at me.

Naps: (today's and generally about same time most days give or take)
9am to 10am nap. Usually 1 to 1.5 hours.
1210pm to 140pm nap usually 1 to 1.5 hours
1540pm to 1610pm (can differ in time) nap usually 30 to 45 mins. Sometimes 1.5 if lunch time nap been rubbish.

Bed 615pm sleep by 630pm today. Sometimes goes bed at 645 to 7. Depends on her tbh and her last nap.

Woke at 1945pm, thought I feed make sure she's not hungry. Only took small amount. I offered feed as she doesn't normally wake so thought maybe she hungry 🤷🏼‍♀️

Wise wisdom MN know what's going on?

She self settles too. I put her in her cot. Go back once as she's lost dummy and then that's it x

Sleep needs usually drop at this age so I would think possibly too much daytime sleep and that the last nap is too close to bedtime. The 2-3-4 schedule has worked well for mine once they reach 6 months. So my 7 month old would do the following: wake at 7am, nap at 9-10am, second nap 1-3pm, bed at 7pm. If the second nap is short because we’ve been out then I’ll allow a brief cat nap in the afternoon but 15 minutes max and never after 4pm.

I did try the 234 set up about 2 weeks ago but I found she was getting a bit overtired towards bed time but would refuse that last nap. Also the gap of 3 hours she was exhausted, and would be waking up in the cycle of 40 mins, and need resettling.

Then the 4am wakeup happened so went back to before, as she was overtired x

Take the plunge again?

What time is morning wake up?

With a 6.30pm bedtime, if be expecting a wake up around 5.30am. This makes the gap through to a 9am nap huge.

You could do with trying to get at least one of those naps to be longer - ie consistantly over 90 mins and more like 2h-2.5h. I wonder if you made that morning nap earlier, it would be longer. Then the longer nap will make stretching to a 3h awake window more doable.

It's 530am @fatedestiny though she will babble in her cot until 630am and drift back off for half hour.

She goes down at 9am no fuss and not overtired.

How do I fit in her feeds? Normally 7-730 feed. 11am feed. 230/3 If I do the 3 hour gap do I give a top up before she goes down and give her another feed when she wakes? So say just before 1pm/130pm I give a top up? As I'm guessing she won't sleep from 1pm/130pm till 3/330 without a full belly. I don't do lunch food yet. Just bfast and dinner.

Shes not a piggy with her feeds. She just won't take more then she wants. The best I get is 150mls first part and remaining just before nap (sometimes just a mouthful)

You're not going to want to hear this, but she needs getting up at 5.30am. That's her natural wake up time (with a 6.30pm bedtime) and so she's having 4 naps a day. That first awake time wants stretching to 2h.

I'd consider yourself in a transition period right now and try and work towards 3 naps per day, instead of 4, and a later (8pm ish) bedtime. Then she should wake later and you can shift your whole day.

Difficult to suggest timings for feeds (and naps) when in a transition period, because it will keep changing.

😭😭😭 I thought you may say that. But it feels middle of the night for me 😂 🤣 I do go bed early and asleep by 930pm but I'm anemic so always tired 😂

I had a think today and going to change it around a bit.

Today
9am sleep. 1030 awake.
1pm sleep 2pm awake
1545pm sleep and 1710pm awake . So will push bed time back to 730pm.

Couple weeks to see a change isn't it?

Oh I get it. If it was my child, no chance whatsoever I'd be out of bed until 7am. I may tolerate a cuddle in bed from 6.30am, but that's the earliest I'd do.

Ergo if this was my child, is just bite the bullet and make the change in one go. Move bedtime loads later, like 9pm, for 2 or 3 days and deal with the overtired mess baby would be for those days until mornings got more reasonable. I'd just do best I could with the days to get through, allowing extra naps or force long naps (with long car rides, pushchair walks, or continuous bouncing in the bouncer).

Other people favour the gradual approach. I wouldn't do that with my own if I was living it though.

Thanks @fatedestiny. Im glad I'm not only one about 7am get up.

Bite the bullet I must! She was awake on and off from 2am last night 😴 no reason I could find. Just decided to be awake chilling in her cot. She has massive bags under her eyes today - it will be a good day 😂

The first nap should be 45 mins-1 hour, the middle the longest and then the third a small cat nap, however at this age they do start to drop the third nap. Sounds like she could be getting slightly too much daytime sleep!

Shes getting about 3.5 hours asleep a day. Maybe 3.45 at times. I thought that was average?

Shes getting about 3.5 hours asleep a day. Maybe 3.45 at times.
Are those nap times? Babies are all different but to me that sounds like about an hour too much for a 6 month old. I would have thought 2.5-3 hours would be more what you’d aim for if you’re also expecting around 12 hours of sleep overnight.

Yeah naps 1.5 in morn. 1.5 lunch. 45 mins late afternoon. Sometimes she doesn't want 1.5 at lunch so has it late afternoon, no sleeping after 5 usually. I was going by what she wants.

I don't wake her as otherwise I have one grumpy overtired mess! And makes for long difficult day