Baby so angry before sleep :-(

[Dorset555]

Hi all has anyone got any advice my daughter is nearly 15 weeks and screams blue murder before naps and her evening sleep. Its getting worse and although it only lasts max 10 mins, over the weeks that's alot of crying that I'd love to cut out. She goes from happy baby to so so mad when I put her down. I'm generally keeping her up for about an hour and a half then nap time..she starts rubbing her eyes by this point. She only really naps for 45 mins. The wonder weeks app says we are in a leap so maybe that's it...or sleep regression? She was 8 days over due so does that mean she could be class as 4 months? So confused and just want her to be happy am I putting her down too early or too late? Any wise words massively appreciated. X

Could she have silent reflux?

Hi thanks for the reply...I hadn't considered that...but I don't feed her to sleep, except and evening dream feed...could it still be? We do nap/feed/play so I would assume reflux would only be directly after a feed? What do you think?Thanks!

Sorry my reply was so short I'm in bed not feeling well!

How long after feeds are you putting her down. I'm no expert but it could still be. Because what's flagging to me is every time she is out down she screams, so it it because it hurts?

Or do you think it's because she'd prefer to be held to sleep maybe?

Not at all thanks for taking the time! :-)
So I'll feed her and then it's probs an hour 15 till her nap. Could it still be reflux?
She doesn't scream when she's on the playmat or the changing table...just when I put her in the pram for daytime naps or down to bed at night. :-(

It sounds like she doesn't like to be separated from you, so is crying for you, not angry.

Thanks @lynettescavo.. She def stops crying if I pick her up for a cuddle...but i need her to nap...what can I do to stop this?

She isn't angry before sleep, she is crying because you have put her in her cot. She is literally crying for you. Pick her up and comfort her.

Thanks for the comment any tips on how to get her to sleep in the cot?

Is she maybe getting overtired? Look at the blissful baby expert she has a routine guide for all ages and sleep advise.

Ooo thanks @wavecatcher I'll do that :-)

I do remember my son was like this and really I did hold him until he was about 6months.
Then I used technique in the gentle sleep book using shush pat method. I'll see if I can find a link

Ah I just googled it and see its a book...Worth buying do you think?

The baby sleep solution it was

blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/The-Baby-Sleep-Solution-by-Lucy-Wolfe-author/9781472269157

I got a lot of use it out if and for each age range she has a routine documented.
I seem to remember reading it and thinking "ok but where are the technique"....they are towards the back of the book

@Dorset555

Not at all thanks for taking the time! :-) So I'll feed her and then it's probs an hour 15 till her nap. Could it still be reflux? She doesn't scream when she's on the playmat or the changing table...just when I put her in the pram for daytime naps or down to bed at night. :-(

Yes silent reflux is caused by their sphincter at the top of their stomach not being fully developed yet. So anytime they are horizontal acid can come up. Try putting the cot at a slope or we found a soother really helped as the sucking kept the acid down. Hope this helps

Is she getting overtired?

Can she nap on you? My little girl takes pretty much all her naps on me. They’re only little once

Also 45 minutes is a normal nap length at this age

Thanks so much for the tips I think ill get the book! Really interesting ref silent reflux I will def put the cot on an angle tonight. She's always super happy on our changing mat which is sloped...so maybe!

@jellytumble I'd love her to nap on me but doesn't seem to anymore...and I just need a more sustainable method to be honest. Good to know the 45 mins is normal.for now! Thank you! 😊

@boringcreation just thinking some more about this...she is happy lying flat on the playmat after a feed and happy in the pram once she's woken up and we are just walking about...would this rule out the reflux thing? Will still be slanting the cot tonight to give it a go!

[quote Dorset555]@jellytumble I'd love her to nap on me but doesn't seem to anymore...and I just need a more sustainable method to be honest. Good to know the 45 mins is normal.for now! Thank you! 😊[/quote]
Ahh that’s fair. Yeah, naps tend to be 30-45 minutes until about 7/8 months when they stretch to 1-2 hours

@anothernewtop

She isn't angry before sleep, she is crying because you have put her in her cot. She is literally crying for you. Pick her up and comfort her.

Try giving her a dummy. This helps for in-cot settling without crying.

Thanks @FATEdestiny we do use dummies and they def help but the crying has just got so much worse recently. Do you think it could have anything to do with sleep regression? Thanks again for all the comments!

It means you need to give her a bit more help to get to sleep.

Have you tried a swaddle alongside the dummy? That's also good for calming baby down.