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8 month old won’t nap for longer than 30 mins, any advice welcome

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Jumperblock · 08/05/2021 20:17

Hi, hoping someone can help. Baby is 8 months old now and we’re really struggling with his sleeping routine. Can’t seem to find advice that relates to his nap routine, all Info seems to assume that your baby naps for at least an hour per nap, but our son will only sleep for 30 mins bursts, so he is in a constant cycle of being overtired. We don’t know how to lengthen the naps or fit in just 3 naps a day instead of 4, which is what he should be having now. I’ve outlined some important info on his nap routines as it stands. We’ve followed all advice of white noise, black out blinds etc but it doesn’t help extend the naps.

◦ No set wake time - so this affects what time he naps through the day - should we start sticking to the same times or thereabouts for napping through the day or base it more around how long he’s been awake?
◦ No set bed time as all dependent on what time he wakes from last nap. If last nap is after 5 then bed time is after 8 one day and then 7 the next
◦ Lunch time changes each day depending on naps - not sure if that matters?
◦ Naps are 30 mins each
◦ Will only nap longer if he’s in the car. Napping in the pram doesn’t make a difference to timing. He also has never taken a dummy and don’t want to start that now.
◦ He was starting to nap in his bed but will now only nap in our arms. If he was left in his bed, he would cry and cry until he’s picked out. What do we do at this point as nothing soothes him; should we miss his nap and hope the next one works? We just jump on the medicine ball with him to get him to sleep but this obviously isn’t sustainable long term,and he’s a very big baby.
◦ Has 3 - 4 naps a day. Know we should be hitting 3 naps by now but because he only sleeps for 30 minutes a go he would have to last about 4.5/5 hours awake till bedtime. Currently keeping him up between 2 - 2.5 hours between each nap.
◦ Bedtime is a real issue and can cry for hours - not left to cry it out. Really bringing us down as can sometimes be as late as 10 and then bed time for us and the whole thing starts again at 5am. We know he can self settle as he has slept through 9 hours in the past.
◦ Has got into a routine of waking at 5am for a ‘feed’ but we give in as he goes back to sleep in his bed for 45 mins to 2 hours. If we didn’t do this he’d start his day
◦ Baby does not like to be put down much during the day and prefers to be carried everywhere. Won’t be using as much energy as needed to be tired enough possibly?

Sorry this is so long! Any advice appreciated , thank you

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DarcyLewis · 08/05/2021 20:30

Ok, well I would start from the top.
Decide what wake up time is eg 7am and wake him then every day.
I’d aim for a routine like:
7am up and milk
8am breakfast
9-10am nap
11.30/12 - lunch
12.30-2 nap
2pm milk
4/4.30 short nap 30 minutes max
5pm tea
6.30pm milk
7pm bed

He might still need a dream feed at 10pm depending on how well he eats in the day.

If you want to get him to self settle in his cot, lay him down and shush and pat him. If he gets upset pick him up and calm him then lay him down again and ssh/pat. It will take a long time the first few days but you have to be consistent. Personally I would try the dummy and also a comforter/muslin/blanket.

Vicky1989x · 08/05/2021 21:14

At 8 months my DD’s routine was:-

6-6:30: wake up
7: milk
8: breakfast
9:15/9:30: nap
11: milk
12: lunch
1:30: nap
3: milk
4:30: dinner
6: bath, bottle and bed for 7.

I always stuck to it regardless of wake up time - maybe plus or minus 15 minutes but that was about it. She started napping longer when I dropped to 2 naps; took her a couple of days to adjust but she started napping for 1-1.5 hours like clockwork.

FATEdestiny · 08/05/2021 22:35

A lot of your problems are caused by your baby being over tired. So sorting the over tiredness out in the sort term may should stop the downward spiral and then enable you to set a more long term routine.

To get out of your over tiredness spiral - You baby needs more sleep (sorry to state the obvious). Since you only get 30 min naps (due to over tiredness) the way to get more sleep is by reducing awake windows and having more naps per day.

So lose all thoughts of 3 (or even 4) naps per day at this point. Instead work on awake windows.

● Awake time (from waking from one nap to being fully asleep the next nap) wants to be double nap length, plus or minus 15 mins. So 30 minute naps means aim for 60min awake window. Start settling to sleep after 45 min awake, to then allow baby to be aslerp within 45-75 minutes of last waking up.

● This then needs some organisation in fitting in solids meals and milk feeds in a very short awake window. So plan forward- while he is sleeping work out what is happening in the next awake window. For example
● Wake up between 6am-7am = milk feed
● Any awake window between 8am-9am = breakfast
● Any awake window between 10am-11am = milk feed
● Any awake window between 12pm-1pm = lunch
● Any awake window between 2pm-3pm = milk feed
● Any awake window between 4pm-5pm = dinner
● Any awake window between 6pm-7pm = milk feed
● Any awake window between 7pm-8pm = bath and bedtime

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