11 Month old waking through the night!!

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My 11 month old has been sleeping terribly now for 3 months and we're exhausted. Sometimes he'll wake multiple times and is easy to get back to sleep but other times he can be awake for hours crying! He used to sleep 7-7 and would self settle but that seems like a distant memory! He now never self settles and is so hard to settle at night. He has cut 4 teeth in the last few months but surely teething doesn't last for months on end? He doesn't have a dummy as he never liked it but does have a comforter. Sleeps in a sleeping bag, dark room with continued white noise
He generally wakes 6-6.30 am, naps at 9.30 til 10.30 then 2.30 til 3.30. Bedtime 7pm. If he has shorter naps that day we'll put him to bed earlier to avoid overtiredness
Will we need to do sleep training to get him to self settle again and sleep better or will this just get better by itself? I hate hearing him cry but I'm seriously exhausted and it's impacting my mental health

Try giving him porridge before bed. He may be waking because he is hungry. Also if he is formula fed switch to the hungry baby milk. Worked for me.

Rule out other issues (like hunger!) first, but some form of sleep training may well be required again, yes. I always assumed sleep training would be a one-and-done deal, but not so! I found both of my kids had periodic regressions. Fun times. :-)

Teething went on for months for us.
Settled when he went into his own bed tbh (22m) but we still gets the odd night when he wakes up a few times - hence the timing of this post!

Just another tip. With my twins when they were little they would go down at 7 to sleep and at 12 before I slept I would take them out of their cots change their nappy and give them a bottle... This then allowed them to sleep through till 7am! They wouldn't wake fully when I did that as I did it in a dark room but worked for me!

I know how you feel, you think you're doing everything right with the sleep environment but it doesn't seem to help. My daughter is nearly 11 months and was up 5 times last night, mental health has also taken a beating! Think we will be sleep training soon we just need to come up with a plan.
I've just had advice on my thread that 3h awake before 1st nap could be too long and to try 2h to prevent overtiredness, haven't tried it yet myself though

There’s a sleep regression between 7 and 10 months, could be that going on still? My 11 month old went through it at 8 months and it lasted about a month.

How does he go to sleep? Do you need to rock/feed to sleep?

Have you tried lengthening his naps, he could be overtired? My DD is the same age and she does 2 1.5 hour naps.

I did wonder about a regression as he did the same at 4 months, but that only lasted about a month!
I pat his bum to get him to sleep otherwise he just cries, so I'm wondering if I'd need to do CC in order to get him to self settle again
I've tried everything under the sun to lengthen naps but it's impossible, I've only just managed to get an hour rather than 30 mins and that took sooo much work! He seems more than happy and wide awake after his naps though. I'm just at a loss!

Hi! This happened to me and my little one was having the exact nap times as yours and I had the same problem during the night. I bought a sleeping course and actually they suggested to cut the morning nap short to max 30min and for them to have a longer nap over lunch at 12.30/1 for up to two hours this worked really well!! At first I was skeptical and said there’s no way they will do a long nap but they did! At the beginning I had to re settle a few times to make sure they got a longer nap. Hope this helps

I tried giving him a bottle and he acted as though I'd given him the contents of his nappy lol!! So that rules out hunger! I'll try an earlier morning nap and attempt to lengthen his afternoon one. I thought sleep training was a one time thing, but clearly not! I'm thinking this may be our last option if nothing else works!
He has dairy free formula so can't try hungry baby milk unfortunately 😕

Just seen your update that he has a dairy allergy. Do you suspect any other allergies? My daughter has cmpa and is also a terrible sleeper but always has been. Sometimes I notice she seems to be in pain at night with wind or tummy spasms, can you pinpoint any foods which might trigger it or is it every night? We have a dietician referral for a couple of months so I hope they're going to help us!

We have been trying him on milk products recently and he hasn't reacted to anything, so I think he's outgrown it to be honest, I just haven't changed his formula yet. He has no rashes or bowel issues anymore at all! He used to cry all day when he had the allergy and now he's a happy little boy even with eating dairy. Also it is every night, and it's always at the same times 10.30, 12.30, 2.30, 4.30 then up at 6.30..so to me this seems more habitual rather than something actually waking him if that make sense?
I did go back to dairy free for a week to see if it changed anything but it didn't!

Oh I see, thats great he can have dairy again, gives me hope for when we start the milk ladder. Every 2h does seem like he cant link sleep cycles without help anymore. Did you sleep train before? We have similar wakings and I think its the route we're going to take

I think most babies outgrow it! My 2 nephews were exactly the same, good luck with the milk ladder!
We sort of did sleep training before at about 4 months, he would wake for 2 hours each night and we just left him, eventually he stopped and slept through 7-7 and we didn't even have to settle him at bedtime.. however, he never cried then! This time I think will be harder as he is crying everytime, but do think we're going to have to attempt sleep training 😩