A question about getting DS4 back to sleep. Its not so much a problem, just a bit annoying. The title will be too long if I try and explain it here....although this is quite long now so maybe I should have just told you here...never mind, click it i...

[LadyTophamHatt]

Blame the constant late nights/early mornings for that title

Anyway....

Ds4 wakes for a bottle between 5-6am, he'll generally drink it all but then will not under any circumstances go back to sleep.
Youall know the story, climbing all over me, walloping me, pulling my hair, flinging himslef around all fo rfun, he's giggling and laughing the whole time even though the room is dark and I (we) try not to laugh with him.

I don't really mind the time he gets up, I average about 6-7 hours which I can survive on BUT I gaurantee, without a doubt he always goes back to sleep as soon as we're downstairs. He's alseep right now, snoring and has been for about 30 minutes.

We could both be asleep in bed if beating me up wasn't so much fun for him

So, dear Mners please tell me how I can get him to stay upstairs to sleep. I can't carry him up again because he'll wake up, and I can't leave him down here because the big Dsses get up soon after him and they'll wake him up. Is there anything I can do??

oh god I don't know
sounds annoying though
have you tried delaying the bottle by ten minutes a day until he doesn't get it until six am?

Ooh I don't know. How old is he now? Any chance you could leave him for a bit - he might cry and then go back to sleep??? I think that's what I'd do after a while, but I remember thinking I'd spend the rest of my life getting up at 5.30am with ds2, who did exactly the same thing for months. I think in the end he got big enough/we got knackered enough to just leave him and he got used to sleeping slightly longer, or waking up and going back off again.

Sorry - not much help...

you can try letting him wait abit for his bottle when he wakes at 5-6... so that when he gets it he may concentrate on it more, lay down and end up falling back to sleep...

hes just having a lot of fun with some just me and the 'rents time atm... i can see why hed do it, what with there being big bros around much of the time... just need to break the habit (hah! 'just'!)

so is he co-sleeping?
could you perhaps have another bed anywhere where you could put him with the 5-6 bottle? in a seperate room ideally...

He'll be 9 months in about week dotty (don't ask me how that shappened...9 months already...)

He woke at about 5:20 this morning but I left him until 5:45 before I could open my eyes wide enough to getthe milk.

He lays in his cot tra la la la-ing, banging his dummy along the cot bars, rolls onto his front and shouts into the mattress, tra lalalas a bit more. He really just won't go back to sleep, as soon as I'm up and he sees me he does his little happy "writhing around the cot" dance

He's still aslep BTW so he's obviously tired.

Sorry - can't help with the sleep issue, but the pictures of your baby are so cute that it's making me broody!

could you not invest in a mini fridge and keep a couple of bottles and a warmer in your room that way you dont have to drag yourself all the way downstairs????

cant improve on the advice from dotty and nappies, but much (sleep-deprived) sympathy...

Fawkes, I only have to lean out of bed to get the milk, I take a flask of hot water, ahalf filled bottle and the milk powder up to bed so i can make it fresh.

If he wasn't so cute I'm so this would annoying me even more

He's awake now, all 3 big dsses are up so the the noise level has increase by 90,000%

I think I've tried everything TBH.

He/we/I'm a lost cause.....

Can you not go to sleep on the sofa downstairs with him?

well i'm assuming that since you have three other DSes that there isnt really any room to stick him in a room on his own.....the only thing i can suggest is to put a freezing cold bottle of milk into his cot when you settle for bed and it will be room temp by the time he wakes for his 5 am bottle.

Can you move him out of your room now? Sounds like although he wakes up early he is happy talking to himself, etc but wakes you up.... if he was not in your room maybe you would get another 30 minutes sleep or so - and he might even go back to sleep himself?

i was up at half 5 with ds as well, so much sympathy. i was just about to post a thread of my own but i can't beat your title!!

pixie, i've tried that too, but i can't get back to sleep on the sofa.
wierd really beacuse if i sit on it in the evening i'm asleep within minutes.

seee, lost cause.

aw lth, yes, sounds like youve done evrything..

you know what? im pretty sure one of mine has done this. and im pretty sure it passed... like you say, he is tired... maybe he'll just get bored of it and stop on his own in (hopefully not too much) time ?

have the bottle ready made, sod making it fresh, and dont smile or talk to him at all - in fact, at risk of sounding like (horror of horrors!!) CV [oh god theres no emoticon to sum up my distaste right now]... dont even make eye contact... and you and dh dont interrect either... maybe he'll 'get' after a few days of this, that 5am is not playtime? that theres nothing worth waking up for?

theories theories... i know full well practice is another world

grapefriut, not enough rooms in the house for that either.....

UD, pesky kids eh??

i really think that you should put a really cold bottle in with him when you are about to go to bed.I do it with my ds...he is nearly 2 but i cant stop him having a night bottle yet, it's not worth my sanity

get lost cause I think sorry
if it is any consolation, dd1 still gets up at 6am latest (she is 4) and dd2 prefers5.30am and it take mammoth effort to persuade her to stay in bed till 6am. she still wakes at 5-5.30am every morning and will amuse herself until 6am,if I waver and feed before 6am just once (e.g.teething or whatever) it takes weeks to get it back.She is nearly two. we have tried everything. I think just some children are early risers.
don't know why I told you all that really just wanted to get it off my chest

Nappies, I don't talk and try really hard not to encourage him but when he climbs on me and is literally nose to nose with me looking me in the eye, its really hard not to laugh and obviously impossible to avoid eye contact

LTH has a system for doing the bottle

leaving a bottle out of the fridge for 6 hours or more, is not a good idea.

shut your eyes? tis what i do with ds, mainly cause i'm worried he'll poke my eyes out if i don't!

yes ds3 does the exact same with me... tis actually utterly impossible to ignore!

i did say soemthing about theories...

how about the it'll pass bit? even if its not true, its somethign to hold onto, eh?

he grabs my eyelashes and gives then a good hard yank if i do that UD.

seeing it in black and white here makes it sound hilarious.

LTH much sympathymust be the January baby thing, as Hattie is awake between 5 and 6 99% of mornings and will drink her milk and then be wide awake and i come downstairs so ellie can sleep longer (she is normally up 6.30 ) I've resigned myself that she is another early riser and my only consolation is that a) they are both fast asleep by 6.30pm and b) I get to mumsnet donstairs whilst she clambers over me desperate to hit the keyboard

yes, i'll hold onto that nappies