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Trying to phase out the 5am wake ups

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GreyPanther · 19/07/2020 05:54

Since he was about 12 months old, my 18 month would go through phases of sleeping until 6:30/7am the go through a long cycles of waking at 5am screaming his head off. Just when we think we have “fixed” the problem, he goes back to waking up at 5am.

He’s currently in a 5am wake up cycle and has been for the past two weeks and it’s just too much. I’m going to use this thread to document what I do to try and encourage him out of it (and so I can refer back when the next 5am cycle hits.)

Background info:
he is 18 months. Room is pitch black at night, right temp. He wears a sleeping bag in a cot.
Nap time is usually 12-2pm (although he has napped for 20 mins at 9am then slept 12-3 for the past few days because he’s been so tired)
Bed time is usually 7pm.

Wake up today: 5:17am. Condition - screaming his head off. I know he’s tired because he wakes up upset. He hasn’t woken up happy and babbling in so long.

My other half went and got him at around 5:20am. Tbh I would rather we just left him in the dark room until 6am but he was really crying quite loudly and working himself up that we didn’t want to inconvenience the neighbours with a 40 mins screaming session. He is currently downstairs playing with his toys.

My future strategy for today/tonight is as follows:
No more mini naps at 9am
If he’s tired, main nap at 11:30 but otherwise strextch him to 12pm and no more than 2hrs
Bed time tonight no later than 6:30 (ideally aim for him to be asleep by then) to see if this makes a difference.
If he wakes anytime before 6am, leave him in his cot. This is going to be tough but I feel it’s the only way he will learn.

Re white noise - we’ve tried it so many times and I feel like it doesn’t make a difference with our DS as he still wakes up early with it so we’ve given up on it.

I’ll report back tomorrow. Feel free to follow my journey or share any tips!

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CSMD · 21/07/2020 11:02

Hi

Did this work? Currently in the same cycle with mine and we have decided to leave him until 6am

GreyPanther · 21/07/2020 11:39

Hello

Sorry, totally forgot to update this Confused

So on Sunday, DS woke at 5:20 and had an early lunch at 11am and napped at 11:45am. We didn’t let him have a mini nap in the morning.

DS then napped from 11:45am - 2pm (we woke him at 2pm).

Dinner was around 5ish and he went to bed at 6:30pm.

On Sunday evening he woke up at midnight but fell asleep within 2 minutes.

He also woke up at 2:30am and I went it to cuddle him. He then fell asleep for 30 mins and popped up crying and wouldn’t stop so I fed him to sleep 😬
Wake up on Monday morning was 7:40am!!

Yesterday, he napped for an hour at the childminders and we put him to bed around 6:45/7pmish. He woke at 6:20 this morning 🙌🙌🙌

Going to aim for a 6:45 bedtime again. Fingers crossed it works. Good luck @CSMD!

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GreyPanther · 21/07/2020 11:41

I should mention that the wake ups on Sunday night were unusual and I think he did it because he was hungry.

One thing I have noticed is that he will wake up way later than usual if he wakes in the middle of the night. If we like I have to sacrifice solid sleep for a bit of a lie in Confused

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GreyPanther · 22/07/2020 06:42

Spoke too soon. Had a 5:40am wake up today.
He went to bed at about 6:40pm last night. Not sure how long his afternoon nap was as I forgot to ask the childminder but it won’t have been longer than 1hr30 as he never naps for long there.

When he woke, I left him for 5 mins but he got really upset so i went and fed him on and off for 30 mins. He didn’t go back to sleep at any point.

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GreyPanther · 23/07/2020 05:34

And another early wake up today (5:18h). I don’t think I would mind so much but wakes up absolutely hysterical so it’s clear he’s not had enough sleep.

Yesterday he woke up at 5:40, napped from 12-2:20. He had a longer nap than usual as my husband was in charge and decided to let him nap longer.

He was put down for bed at 6:40 but was hysterical and wouldn’t go to bed until 7pm.

He woke up this morning at 5:18 and we left him for a few mins but my husband caved and had gone into his room to sit with him. He’s been crying non stop since 5:18.

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BabyWright · 25/07/2020 09:52

I’ve had a similar issue with my 18 month old. I’ve found that I’ve had to reduce his nap to 1 hour 45 max and bedtime now is around 7.30pm.

All of my friends with 18 month olds have found that they won’t sleep more then 11 hours a night now and the average seems to be 10.5 hours at night.

I’ve also recently swapped my son to a duvet and found he’s sleeping better as he seems to like his feet out. Hope this helps 🙂

CSMD · 30/07/2020 20:55

We are the same, Harry slept until 6am or past for 3 mornings then went back to 5:30. Im sticking with the not going in until 6 / 6:15am. He isnt crying or upset, just makes a lot of noise and pulls himself up in cot. I find he is really dying for his first bottle and wonder is it part habit/hunger. He gets his dinner at 5 and sometimes only takes 3 ounces of milk at bedtime. Today he was so tired by 9am I let him sleep for 2 hours - then he had another 30 mins this afternoon. God help me in the morning! I really shouldn't complain as he never wakes at all during the night even when teething. Im making peace with the fact I just need to go to bed at 9pm!

LillyMac500 · 04/05/2021 07:43

I know this is an old thread, but wondering if you had any luck breaking the 5am cycle @GreyPanther @CSMD? My DD has never been a great sleeper and we’re still having a bit of a fight at bedtime, and 5/530 wake ups. She’s then a misery from dinner time to bed time 😭😭

csmd87 · 04/05/2021 09:07

Hi

If I remember rightly, we stuck it out i.e. not going into him and within a few days he stopped the early awakening. That being said, he is now 21 months and we are going through the same thing again (after a pretty good spell!) Refuses bed and wakes up early. As time has gone on, I've resigned myself to the fact they go through these phases... exhausting as they are... they do come back out of them again. I think by 3 their sleep should settle a lot :-)

LillyMac500 · 04/05/2021 09:48

Thanks @csmd87, will try and leave her tomorrow morning, hopefully she doesn’t get too worked up! It certainly feels they have a new phase every week 🙈🙈

csmd87 · 02/06/2021 16:53

Hi

My wee one who is 21 months done this for 5/6 months last year (he was about 7/8 months at the time) It was hell and we tried everything. It did eventually extend to 6am but we were wrecked. We ended up just having to take it in turns each morning and go to bed super early.

He is now going through a phase of not wanting to sleep until 9am even though Iv halved his nap! I really think until they reach 3 things become more steady.

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