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Sleep... help! Co-sleeping, regression...?

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E899 · 22/05/2020 05:15

Okay so this is a long one!!

So for the past two nights my LO has been so hard to settle at night. He has settled for his daytime naps (self soothed and then in pram).

Wednesday night we put him to sleep (self soothed) and after about an hour he woke up screaming. He’s done this before but after putting his dummy in he goes back to sleep. However he just wouldn’t stop so we rocked him to sleep and put him back down. He slept for another hour and did the same. We rocked him but the minute we put him down he screamed. Even if we rocked him and sat down with him in our arms he woke up and screamed. In the end, I put him in the pram and rocked him up and down our hallway. This took a good hour for him to fall asleep - he wasn’t crying. He slept for a couple of hours. I gave him a feed, he fell asleep in my arms, I placed him down in his crib. He fell asleep for a few hours, woke for another feed and then went back to sleep in his crib.

Last night was the same. He was a bit cranky so had to rock him to sleep and place in crib. He then woke about 40 mins after screaming. We tried to calm him in his crib, then picked up cuddled and put down. But he kept doing the same. I tried him for a feed but he didn’t want it. We must’ve rocked him to sleep 4 times and every time his head hit the crib he cried. Even if he had been asleep for 30 mins in arms. I then gave him a feed at 830 but he didn’t fall asleep so again rocked, out in crib, screamed. In the end I bought him into bed with me where he calmed and fell asleep. This was about 9pm. He has just (5am) woke for a feed so has gone 8 hours without one and he normally would wake up about two/three times throughout the night for one. I’ve placed him back in his crib instead of with me and he’s so far staying asleep.

Important to say he’s 16 weeks, sleeps in the next to me crib, is currently teething, breastfed, has three naps totalling to around 3 - 4 hours sleep. We put him down around 630 as he used to get so cranky - sometimes we rock him to sleep as he just cries which I believe is over tiredness. In the day he’s such a happy boy, he whinges a few times but that’s normally his teeth hurting.

I am worried that we are missing a trick with his bedtime and maybe putting him to sleep too early. His typical day is:

  • wakes at 7
  • naps at 9. This can vary between 30 mins to 1 hour
  • on average wakes at 10 and we have playtime
  • naps at 12 for approx 2 hours
  • wakes at 2 and we have playtime.
  • naps about 3.30/4 and wakes about 4.30/5
  • we then normally have our tea where he sits and watches, followed by his bath (every other day as has dry skin), massage, book (if he can handle it as sometimes after the bath he just cries and won’t really settle), fed and then sleep. We aim to put him into bed about 630. Sometimes he falls asleep whilst being fed, self soothes or needs to be rocked

So just wondering if you can help!!

  • is this the 4 month regression and if so how long does it last?
  • ideally I don’t want to co sleep. I don’t have an issue with it but I’m scared he won’t wean off it and even though I have read the guidelines I just don’t feel comfortable doing it.
  • if I do have to co sleep and it is the regression, is it easy to convert him back to his crib after the regression?
  • when he normally wakes at night in crib, is he really wanting a feed if last night he has gone 8 hours without one?
-any other sleep tips?

Thank you!!!

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E899 · 22/05/2020 16:03

Anyone?!

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Mylittlepony374 · 22/05/2020 16:12

Did you try giving him calpol or something for the teething? Might just be pain waking him? My two always needed extra cuddles when teething and often co slept. They're both largely in their own beds now (3 year old and a nearly 2 year old) but will still come in to us if unwell.

E899 · 22/05/2020 19:46

I haven’t given him any calpol as unsure if that was the problem last night. He fell asleep fine on us, it was literally when we kept putting him in the crib. Like the actual second his head hit the mattress, every time! Which leads me to think it’s not a pain but could be wrong

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Mylittlepony374 · 22/05/2020 19:52

It might not be but I would try it and see. At least if it works that's great, if not, you know to try something else.

S082018 · 22/05/2020 19:55

My little one is 15 weeks and sounds very very similar to yours! Your routine also sounds very much the same as ours too. We're also having difficulty with sleep at the moment and have been for the past two weeks. I'm convinced it's the 4 month sleep regression. It's so tough isn't it but hang on in there!
Occasionally I will bring my little one into bed with me after his 3/4am feed just so that we get a few hours of good sleep in. I always said I wouldn't co-sleep but you get to a point where you'd do anything for the two of you to get some rest!

Slydiad · 22/05/2020 20:08

This sounds a lot like what we went through with the four month sleep regression. It was horrible. I was so tired I felt like I was losing my mind. It started getting gradually better on its own after a few days and DD was back to normal (for her) sleep within a week and a half.

We just tried our best to keep her routine the same as it has been, with maybe some extra napping, so she would feel as settled as possible during what was clearly a stressful and unpleasant time for her.

E899 · 23/05/2020 21:14

Well I don’t know what happened but last night he slept from 730-430 and then up twice for a feed before finally waking at 730. Partner had to rock him to sleep but that’s fine.

Tonight he fed to sleep and has stirred a couple of times but managed to get himself back to sleep. Hopefully that was the regression and it has come to an end!!

Thanks all

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2tired2function · 24/05/2020 03:47

Dd did something similar, slept from 7pm-6am on Christmas night (best. Present. Ever) and then next night woke up 4 times, she was around 8-10 weeks. Previously she’d been sleeping 9-10 hours without waking/feeding so I just fed her the first two nights... then thought, hang on, you were doing this two days ago?! We just lay very quietly in bed the next night when she woke and she went straight back to sleep on her own. We had 2-3 weeks after that of slightly more disturbed but agreed I wouldn’t feed her unless it had been 8 hours or she was inconsolable for DH (which never happened).

S082018 · 24/05/2020 09:50

@E899 that's wonderful to hear! We had a slightly better night last night, but my little one still woke up stirring every 1.5-2 hours and needed a lot of help to get back to sleep.

Did you do anything or change anything in particular OP? Or did you just ride it out? It'll be two weeks tonight that my little one's sleep deteriorated so I'm really hoping it gets better soon.

E899 · 24/05/2020 16:30

Yes we’ve made a deal that if he wakes and it’s been shorter than 4 hours without a feed, my husband will see to him and shush him. If it’s been longer than 4 hours then I’ll feed him but it’s obviously the comfort he wants to go back to sleep because he can manage so many hours without a feed!

Sleep deprivation is the worst! We didn’t change anything no, just made sure he was getting his naps in. The night where he slept 730-430, my husband slept by the side of him so I don’t know if that helped.

Last night he was back to his two normal get ups so he went to bed at 630, woke at 2.45 and then at 6am and then fully woke for the day at 7.30. I think we are going to try and stretch him to a 7pm bedtime as after 7 he seems to get overtired so we have to rock him to sleep but putting him to bed at 6.30, he seems to wake up more throughout the night. We shall see!

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