Plz help me with suggestions

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My bub is 9 months and doesn't sleep. He wakes for food every 2 hourly; if I'm lucky I get 3hrs sleep from him. He has been like this since birth. I went for kooweerup sleeping aid and they couldn't help as bub cried non stop and they couldn't put him to sleep. They said its gonna be a tough road for us as he is stubborn. I have also tried little ones program and it didn't work.
I have been using gentle approach to sleep train as bub can cry for hrs until he gets what he wants.
We have already formed a bad sleep approach which is breastfeeding to sleep. He doesnt care about boobs during the day but at night he wants to be glued to breasts. He holds it with his hands so I normally fight to get it off. Most of the times he just uses it as a pacifier. I bought two different dummies and took to hospital and he was using them but everything changed once he was around 2 weeks. He refused dummies. I bought so many others through recommendations and also the one sleep program gave him but he refused them. He just likes boobs a lot.
I just ordered kippins comforter and their sleeping balm through recommendations so waiting for that to be delivered.

This is where I need help. I want to try controlled crying (CC) if it doesnt work then may be CIO
I started CC yesterday and it
took 18mins for first day nap,
second nap 45mins.
Night time at 8pm, it took around 45mins and then he normally wakes by 11pm. It took 3hrs to get him back to sleep, so he basically slept at 2am and then he woke again at 3am.
This time around my husband and I were both tired that I took him to bed and just gave him boobs and he used me as a human pacifier until morning.

I dont know if we are doing CC wrong. He keeps standing up in his cot and we keep putting him down, after a while we keep him lying down by restraining him from getting up. After 15mins we walk out of the room and come back after 5mins and the cycle continues. I dont know if I should let him cry it out but I dont think I will be able to leave him for that long time to cry as he is very stubborn and cries for a very long time kicking his legs. He also tries to jump out of his cot by reaching to any close things around so I just put his cot in the middle of the room and with sleeping bag he hasn't tried it again.
If you have used controlled crying or Cry it out pls how did did u do it? I don't think I can continue this sleepless night any longer. I thought once he starts solid his sleep will improve. I feed him 3 x solid plus snacks and he also eats our bits when we are eating plus breastfeeding and 3x 180/210 mls.

Controlled crying involves leaving them for increasingly longer intervals (3 min, then 5, then 10 for example) - is that what you're doing? Sorry I can't quite tell. Each time you reassure them and check them but don't wait until they go to sleep or stop crying necessarily.

Can you get your husband to do the checks and you don't go into the baby's room? That way there's no temptation for you to give the baby your boobs. If you've had 9 months crap sleep I would hope your husband could try for a few days?

Pls don’t restrain your baby from getting up OP-it’s honestly better to leave the room with him standing on his cot, he can find his way to lie back down.

As for cc- I left my baby for 1 min returned, didn’t say anything just shushed and rubbed the back and left, then after 2 mins, 5 mins and 10mins, then every 10mins after that as long as it took.
Have you tried a bottle before before bed?

It’s not unusual to put a baby of his age down to sleep c 8pm and then dream feed them at 11pm.
How’s his eating generally?
Could offer water in the night- send your husband in so he can’t smell the boobs.

Thanks for the replies. We didn't feel comfortable restraining him anymore after few first day. Yes hubby is now going to him as we noticed he settles quickly with him and he doesnt have to leave the room. I read about a research of making ur baby getting lots of smiles before nap/bedtime so hubby does that and then put him down and keep talking to him and he sleeps off in 10mins. I haven't been lucky with getting him to sleep as he cries more with me and fight for boobs. Anytime from 2am he starts waking every hourly and hubby just place hand on him and he gets back to sleep in 5mins. We decided for me to breastfeed him when he woke at 5.45am. I will see how it goes. I am just lucky because hubby gets 10days off. I hope we use it to achieve something.
NB. He gets last feed at 10.30pm

I did controlled crying at 12 months as it used to take hours to get DS to sleep at night and it was very stressful. He seemed so frustrated he couldn't sleep. So I do also think you need to consider what's causing the sleep problems. Around this time I always stopped BFing at night and moved to a bottle just so it had a clear end point, he finished the bottle whereas when he was breastfeeding it could go on for an hour.

CC was horrible it honestly was but if you follow.it to the letter it can work, well I mean it did for us.

We waited 3 mins, 3 mins, 5 mins, 5 mins, 8 mins, 12 mins but if they stop crying for 10secs you're supposed to reset the timer. By night 3 it was down to just a couple minutes crying.

And ever since he has gone to sleep incredibly well and for naps I just put him down and he goes to sleep.

If he wakes in night now occasionally I always cuddle him we don't do CC anymore as if he wakes and is upset I know something is wrong.

Sorry to say... You have to leave them if they are standing up as long as they physically can get back down themselves