Sleeping/winding troubled- 3 week old baby

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Hey mummies!

My 3 week old little girl is having trouble with settling and winding. We can’t bear to see her in discomfort sad Is there anything that can make it more bearable? I almost dread every feed.

We use aptamil powered formula feed roughly every 3 hours, between 90-120ml.

We use anti colic Mam bottles and have been advised by the midwife to use teat 2 as the wind may be caused by air getting into her tum as she sucks vigorously. However be honest, we haven’t noticed a difference.

Whilst feeding I position her upright. I can hear her little tum making lots of noises as she sucks. Which is alarming! is this normal? I’ve considered changing formulas, but I’m not sure if this will help?

Inbetween feeds I have been advised to wind her once per oz. However it as become a really upsetting experience...she goes red, screams/grunts really loud, tilts her head, arches her back becomes very tense and wiggles on my knee. Making it very hard to try to wind her. However, I do and tend to wind her 3 times per feed. But I am struggling to get any wind out.

After I have fed and winded her. I settled her by walking around with her on or over my shoulder or in the colic carry position. Still rubbing her back on the off-chance I get anymore gas up!

I put her down in her Snuzpod (which I have put on a very, very slight slope- based on advise from other mums) and she starts to grunt, squeak and generally becomes irritated. Moving arms n feet vigorously (almost like she is marching). Arching her back again and tensing up.

I rock the snuzpod alittle which she seems to like.

However if she is very distressed I normally pick her up try n blurp her again.

Then I put her down again, quite often she’s still irritated. I can see she is soo tired. As she will become perfectly still with her arms rested fully placed a over her head. Then all of a sudden it’s as if she gets a pain and she starts thrashing arms and legs to chest, wiggling, moaning, arching her back. Then becomes restful again... like a cycle.

We started her on infacol, however we haven’t noticed any difference. We have purchased colief, but we haven’t tried it yet. Has anyone had any success with it?

Sometimes it is not as extreme, more slow movement inwhich case I try not to pick her up and eventually she goes to sleep.

If she is very upset, we settle her on our chests and sometimes give her a dummy. Which she tends to calm her. Which makes me think is the upset also due to her wanting to sleep on us?

In all honestly our little tot tends to become upset when I change her clothes or change her nappy. Which is really difficult as I just feel like I’m always upsetting her sad

People have said it’s colic, others say she’s overtired, others say it’s attachment issues.

Thanks for help in advance! xxxx

Can you just try and settle her upright on your chest after every feed and see what happens?

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Hey mummies!

My 3 week old little girl is having trouble with settling and winding. We can’t bear to see her in discomfort sad Is there anything that can make it more bearable? I almost dread every feed.

We use aptamil powered formula feed roughly every 3 hours, between 90-120ml.

We use anti colic Mam bottles and have been advised by the midwife to use teat 2 as the wind may be caused by air getting into her tum as she sucks vigorously. However be honest, we haven’t noticed a difference.

Whilst feeding I position her upright. I can hear her little tum making lots of noises as she sucks. Which is alarming! is this normal? I’ve considered changing formulas, but I’m not sure if this will help?

Inbetween feeds I have been advised to wind her once per oz. However it as become a really upsetting experience...she goes red, screams/grunts really loud, tilts her head, arches her back becomes very tense and wiggles on my knee. Making it very hard to try to wind her. However, I do and tend to wind her 3 times per feed. But I am struggling to get any wind out.

After I have fed and winded her. I settled her by walking around with her on or over my shoulder or in the colic carry position. Still rubbing her back on the off-chance I get anymore gas up!

I put her down in her Snuzpod (which I have put on a very, very slight slope- based on advise from other mums) and she starts to grunt, squeak and generally becomes irritated. Moving arms n feet vigorously (almost like she is marching). Arching her back again and tensing up.

I rock the snuzpod alittle which she seems to like.

However if she is very distressed I normally pick her up try n blurp her again.

Then I put her down again, quite often she’s still irritated. I can see she is soo tired. As she will become perfectly still with her arms rested fully placed a over her head. Then all of a sudden it’s as if she gets a pain and she starts thrashing arms and legs to chest, wiggling, moaning, arching her back. Then becomes restful again... like a cycle.

We started her on infacol, however we haven’t noticed any difference. We have purchased colief, but we haven’t tried it yet. Has anyone had any success with it?

Sometimes it is not as extreme, more slow movement inwhich case I try not to pick her up and eventually she goes to sleep.

If she is very upset, we settle her on our chests and sometimes give her a dummy. Which she tends to calm her. Which makes me think is the upset also due to her wanting to sleep on us?

In all honestly our little tot tends to become upset when I change her clothes or change her nappy. Which is really difficult as I just feel like I’m always upsetting her sad

People have said it’s colic, others say she’s overtired, others say it’s attachment issues.

Thanks for help in advance! xxxx

Bless her. Ignore those saying it's attachment issues 🙄

Two videos that might help - they helped me - and

Also something I saw on the Facebook group (I claim no credit for this):

What we thought was gas, turned out to be colic. We had a routine for it:

• first try and fix it, wind for at least 10 minutes in various positions
• bicycle the legs to see if it helps
• next is the baby yoga / massage colic routine. So clockwise circles on the belly, then gentle pressure with a warm hand across her abdomen, then paddle down from across her tummy with both hands, then put toes to nose. Sometimes she vomits, sometimes it's like a balloon being let off!!!!! 🤣 Either way, often relieves pressure.
• try a cuddle, sometimes that's what you want for pain.
• Singing works well too.
• Then Tiger In a Tree hold which is always pretty effective for our Ella. Normally she reaches a point of being more knackered than in pain and this gets her to sleep.
• try the dummy, distraction often takes their minds off it.
• try some food, babies have a "some in some out" reflex which might help it move along.
• try sitting them up, I prop her in a nursing cushion.
• gripe water works for her. There is infacol, coleif, gripe water and Dentinox which I know of. No proof any of them work, but I see that more like when grown ups have indigestion. One will swear by Renee, another Gaviscon, another a can of cola, another never gets it... Don't use them together, e.g. Dentinox + gripe water = constipation.
• try swaddling (to help with the pain/startle reflex) and then putting her down and try and comfort her to sleep. See lullaby trust on how to do this safely.

If all this failed, she had normally been crying for about an hour and a half. So I would leaver her in the swaddle make sure she's safe in her crib or similar, and hide for 5 minutes. Shut the doors, check Facebook, read a book, etc. Could still hear her crying so knew she was OK! I found it meant I don't get cross or too sad about it.
Then we start again.

She will still want to sleep on you at the moment. It's you! She's been inside you for nine months and this world is big and cold and scary and she hasn't processed that yet. Fourth trimester :)

I sit on my DD's blanket while I'm feeding her so that when I put her in her Moses basket and put the blanket over her it smells of me and is warm. Others have suggested putting a hot water bottle in the Moses basket while I'm feeding her and then taking it out when I put her in (to make it warm but cooling, if you see what I mean? As in it's not a constant heat once she's in there).

Ummm what else.

Might get shot down for this but don't be a martyr when it comes to using a dummy... they're called pacifiers for a reason. BUT only use them when you're aware of her feeding cues and don't just put it in when she's crying as a first option - I tend to go through all the possibilities before resorting to it - so offering milk, changing nappy, winding/burping, cuddles, lie down on the playmat, rocking in the Moses basket... and then if nothing works I offer her the dummy.

My baby struggled to bring burps up when he was tiny. I found after a while that holding him upright on my shoulder and going up and down stairs helped jiggle one out sometimes.

During the day try a stretchy wrap sling. It's a good position for them to get wind up and then fall in to a deep sleep. You can then get bits done with two hands free. Don't worry about attachment issues. She's a newborn. She still wants to be part of you, this is completely normal.

Hey!

I'm having similar issues - my baby is just about to turn 5 weeks!

He doesn't like his Moses basket, crib, swing, sleeepy head (that I brought as I was struggling to get him in his own bed). He loves his pushchair if it's moving but everything else is a no. I'm hoping it's a phase but he's sleeping on me, and I mean naps during the day and at night. I don't mind it as such but understand it's safer and more convenient for him to be in his own bed!

I did however manage to get some housework done today as he slept in a sling on me for a good few hours.

I thought he may have colic too - but don't anymore. I tried infacol with him but have changed to gripe water as of today it seems to help (so far).

Hopefully your little one settles soon xx

We had the exact same problem and teat 2 also did nothing. Go back to teat 2 and go on comfort milk. It helped within 24 hours and we never looked back x

Teat 1 sorry!