Tackling early wakings

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Two boys are about to turn 2 and 3. They really really don't want to be waking at 5.30 so often and are exhausted.

Due to early wake ups we've been napping them both. Eldest will cope with no nap if he's had 12 hours. We also went through a phase of putting them to bed 6-6.30 to stop them being so tired. This worked on the tired front but obviously encouraged early wakings.

We're back to 7.00 bed times just because we want them to sleep but they're now just awake and exhausted

Forgot to say that they share a room

We found the grow clock really effective! Was surprised how well it got my 2 year old from 0430 wake ups to 0630.

Also recommend a gro clock.

I'd try and get a solid 1.5-2 hour nap out of the youngest, and maybe 45m from the eldest and still get them in bed early to encourage 12 hours. The later mine go to bed the earlier they wake from overtiredness. I don't think most drop naps until almost 3 if not later so the youngest surely needs a decent nap still?

The youngest definitely needs a nap. The oldest does need to nap about 3/4 days. Every day if he wakes early. The youngest will nap around 12 hours a day.

I tried a gro clock about 12 months ago and the eldest hated the light. I'll try again - thank you.

What time would you suggest bed time? The early wake ups mean we struggle to keep them up past 6.30

My 2 share a room. The 4 year old can now sleep till 7 and the 16 month old wakes between 5 and 530 atm. He generally doesn't wake 4 year old up but we don't leave him in chatting to long as I think it would. I have a gro clock and was considering it so my 4 year old new the time but I don't think 16 month old will?? What happrns if u just leave them chatting till say 6?

They generally wake up screaming and crying as they dont really want to be awake.

I've decided to turn the heating on at 3am to see if they're getting cold. I shall report back

You can change the settings on the gro clock so that there is no light at night when you turn the stars on- we had a similar issue.

I dont feel like I can use a gro clock because I'm really worried my 2yo feels he cant get out of bed and wets the bed! I want him to get up to the toilet. My DS is now non napping and I find he sleeps longer the earlier we put him to bed as he is not overtired. I don't do it every night as it doesn't always fit in with teatime/daddy getting home from work but some nights he is down before 6pm. My realistic waking time is anytime after 6am, so anytime before that he is told to go back to sleep and ignored but between 6 and 7 we play quietly then always up for the day by 7.

So they both slept 90 minutes today and slept 7-6.
I can't win I likely won't nap the nearly three year old today