Report on second night of 'shout it out' with 8 mo DD.....!

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What happened on the first night!

Last night (night no. 2) we took the dummy away completely as we thought that if we're 'putting her through this' shout it out thing, then it's best to kill all birds with one stone rather than put her through it all again later.

Anyway - from her original pattern of:
BF and goes to bed at 6:30pm and wakes for the day ~ 7:15am but she wakes at 10:30pm, 1am and 4am.

Last night she bellowed for 10 mins when put to bed (because no dummy) and then settled.

10:30pm and resettled after we'd been down once to reassure her.

2am - woke and I BF her
6am - woke and I BF her
Put her back to bed and she woke at 9am!!!!

Fab night, fingers crossed for night #3.

Well Done.

Thanks for that - I have no idea if posting this is helpful to anyone but it's great having other people's thoughts on what we're doing and any ideas are always welcome! I'm just wondering what to do about the next 2 wake-ups - we'll see for a week if they work themselves loose by themselves. Tonight she settled herself minus dummy perfectly, with no upset at all. She's also eaten more today so fingers crossed......!

Well done! It's great when it works isn't it!!

I think I posted before, as we are just doing this with ds - slept 7 - 7 last night, and UNSWADDLED too!!

I actually found that within a week I was able to drop the night feeds totally, as I let him whinge for 5 mins first, and in that time he resettled himself!

Good luck! I really what you are going through - on the one hand really happy, but then really worried in case tonight she wakes and wont settle again

Oh that's brilliant and VERY reassuring!! How old is your DS? We're going to stay with friends for the weekend in a couple of weeks and I'm worried that will set us back again. They have 3 young kids and expecting the 4th, so really don't want to cause any nocturnal disturbance!!

Tonight so far - she woke at the usual time but settled herself after 3 mins. Amazing.

ds is 7 months. So far not a peep around his old 11pm feeding time. I still think he'll wake in the night tho...
Just think, more than anything you are teaching your dd to settle herself, so hopefully in a couple of weeks you can take her to sleep out and she wont wake up your friends at all!!

so how did last night go?

Great going!

They can have a relapse depending on their age, DD did not but she was 6m. Once they are older they are more aware and can test the water by shouting a bit more. Everything I read tells you to persevere and they will settle.

Last night (#3)....she settled herself at 11:15 and then woke at 2am and grizzled for an hour. I wondered iof it might be teething so gave her some teething gel. All would be quiet for 5 mins and then she would kick off again. She sounded more miserable than anything else. I ended up feeding her at 3:15am and then she woke at 7:15am.

Tonight (#4) we mucked things up by being at a friends house. She settled herself perfectly and then we woke her at 11pm to bring her home in a taxi......intrigued to see how the rest of the night goes.

How's things with you Ratfly??

Your 3rd night sounds like ours - he grizzled for ages, dropping off and grizzling etc. I fed him too in the end! Just so I could go back to sleep!
Well, Ds is still sleeping through (til 6am last night though. Honestly, I remember when 6am would be a godsend, now it's bloody hell its 6 inthe morning!!! GO BACK TO SLEEP!!)
And I just crept in to shut the window and turn down the fan, and he was fast asleep and unswaddled. Love him!!!

Why would a 5 month old be waking every two hours throughout the night? Oh, until 3am that is, when he chucks in a couple of 45 min gaps. After yet another feed at 5am he sleeps until 7. Am in pieces. This is EVERY night, has got steadily worse for several months. Have started solids on health visitor's advice a week ago, no difference yet (how long do people think that takes to make a difference? plus he is not liking it yet, not even fruit, so i guess he is having barely a couple of mouthfuls). Also have a toddler so I can't catch up on sleep during the day. If I were replying to this I would say, you're dead meat, good luck. But maybe someone knows something I don't

Glad to hear it is going well still. The 3rd night may have been that regression thing I mentioned. If she settled herself at your friends you are doing brilliantly Hope the rest of the night was as good.

veryendoftether - If you start a new thread in Sleep you will get more help (there will be a lot of people avoiding this as CC/Shout it out is a bit controversial on here . How are you feeding BM or FF? DO you have a bedtime routine etc? Give a few details and you should get some help. Will look out for it and see what I can suggest.

I fed her and she settled perfectly straight in to her own cot and then woke at 7am.....we must go out more often!!!!

Veryendoftether - I am not surprised you're in pieces - that sounds like torment and far too frequent to be from hunger. It sounds like he's sleeping too lightly and is waking at the end of his sleep cycle?. I have no idea why he keeps waking so frequently - unless he's too hot/cold or is ill / teething? If it's nothing obvious it might be worth considering taking him to a cranial osteopath? I thought that DD was just waking for comfort and an 8 month old shouldn't be waking every 2-3 hours every night as she was which is why we did the shout it out on the first waking only. I haven't quite steeled myself for the other wakings yet!!! A friend of mine suggested I that feed her at the pre-midnight wakings and then shout it out after that, which sound very sensible I suppose .

Glad it is going well.

Thanks MNPlus - btw - what are your thoughts on whether I reintroduce the 10:30pm feed and knock the next one out instead idea? Last night she drained 200ml at 11:30pm when we got back in from being out at friends (had BF at 7pm as usual) and had the most enormous breast feed at 7am when she woke this morning. She does appear to be growing too so I'm inclined to think that she really does need to feed once in the night at the mo.

So is she waking less? Sounds like it which is good progress!

That's a very good point and yes she is! I just want to confuse her as little as possible as at the moment, sometimes she gets fed and sometimes she doesn't and she can't possibly know when she does and when she doesn't. Last night she woke for the first time and fed at 12pm and then we did shout it out from 3-4am and then she woke at 7:15am for the day.

Well done! you must be feeling very proud of her and yourself

PTIYPASI, i do, do the 10-11pm feed as it can really help top them up to sleep thru.

ok - when do you stop that one?

When you are happy she can sleep thru, you can reduce the amount in the bottle.

It's the boob! I guess I shall just have to use my instinct on how much she's taking and how keen she is for it!

I have found I can cope if the only time she wakes is 10.30ish. I feed her then go to bed myself.
Recently she has dropped the amount so sometimes it is just a comfort suck. Am going to try and cut it out by sending in DP.

Hope she settles well this evening.

Thank you - not looking good - I put her down and she's now screaming and screaming - I've checked to make sure she hadn't rammed herself in to the back of the cot and she's full of grins. Naughty naughty

Did she settle PTIYPASI, and if she really isn't nursing much then you can not offer the breast, i err on the side of caution in the ho[e of 8 uninterrupted hours of sleep for everyone.

Yes she did settle and then woke screaming again an hour later. By the time I had decided that I ought to go and investigate, she'd stopped and resettled again. She woke at 2am (I fed her) and then for the day at 6:15am. I stupidly fed her again then thinking that she'd had her last feed at midnight. We might go for the full shout it out tonight and no feeds until 5am and then just push that back and back over a few nights.