Do nap routines really help night sleep?

[SnowWhite26]

What do we think? Who has one? My lo is 16 months. I am desperately tryong to stick to him napping for 2 hours from about 12 till 2 as this is what i have read is a good time. He sometimez cat naps in morning if going out. He generally wakes at 5-530 so that's why i started. The thing is when is going through a good phase he goes till 6ish but atm hes teething and wakin up all over the place just chatting. I have a 4 yr old as well so am bsuting a gut trying to get these naps right that don't seem to matter atm anyway. Any thoughts?

@muddypuddles12 I just assume at least 50% of posters are on the windup now!

530 today. Sounds crazy but improvement on 4. Yesterday had to put him down at 1030 as so tired and slept till 12. So maybe even though it was earlier waking than I'd like he did just have one nap

I really struggle with the 'one size fits all' notion of nap routines. All children are individuals and trying to force them into the same mould is stressful for everyone concerned. Some children happily nap to routine and some definitely don't - just like adults they have different sleep needs and preferences - just follow their lead.

onlyoneoftheregimentinstep maybe ur right. He is so routine with everything else though and so hit and miss with naps and wake up times

So good example of why I started this post. He had that after lunch nap yesterday but has still woken up at 420.im at my mums as new year and just have him a bottle hoping he will stop!! I am so tired. I hate that I can't trust him just to wake at the same time every day. Should I get rid of the bottle all together even before bed? Then he will end up crying himself back to sleep and I will have hope it doesn't wake his sister he normally shares with! Ahhh I don't no :(

Im up with my 16 month old too since 3am due to a leaking nappy, managed to settle him back but its taken forever.
He does have one nap for around 1.5 hour hes done this since 12/13 months. For the first month of this i kept him busy all morning. He was ready to go to one nap because of his sleep at night and early wakings. Once 1 nap was set in his night sleep and wake ups were better.

Salt pepper I that they will always wake up how ever great the routine is. I just hate that I try and get him for this one nap a day which is so so so hard as have a 4 year old as well so do things where he falls asleep in car etc or hard to be back for nap. I also work so mil and my mum have him and I turn crazy if the sleep goes wrong as I have been trying so hard. I wana no why he has woken up chatting and then i give him milk which I no i shouldn't but out of sheer desperation as I don't no what else to do. Anyway that still doesn't settle him,. He is quiet now but will prob start again in a min. My anxiety is threw the roof as they share a room so crying out is stressful and I hardly sleeping when I can as I'm waiting for him. To wake up :( it's a mess

How did last night go? We were 5.40 again he stayed in his cot til 6.40 but the early starts are throwing everything off. I hate thinking about sleep so much!!!

Don't ask. Haha 3am for over an hour. Didn't give in though to milk and he did eventually settle. Hard :( i have decided to get rid of bottle before bed as well. X

How is it going Snow White?
Ours napped well yesterday and went to bed at 7 as usual butnwasbawakenfrom 10.40 to 12.20 - what the actual hell? He has now woken up at 7.20 so I have no idea how to play it.

Argh!!!

Nevergotmypuppy- its like they are one of the same baby haha. He napped ok he went to bed at 7 with his sippy cup of milk instead of bottle as stopping them all together he then woke at 230 to. 330. I didn't go in though coz he was just chatting on and off! He woke at 615. It is mad. What is in the air. My 4 year old woke at mid night but settled quickly. What's in the air!

Its so frustrating because I have been absolutely militant about routine. I hate not knowing what to do!!!

He is alseep for morning nap but it's far later than usual - fell asleep at 9.50. I'm going to give him half an hour only and then hopefully get him down for a decent nap this afternoon.

My logic eas short morning nap means it would be easier to drop it but maybe I'm just playing it all wrong.

I dont think it can count for everything but DS has woken up with both lower canines peeping though.

I was talking to a friend today who is very breezy on whole nap thing. Her 15 month old tends to sleep for 2 hours in morning if they are about. If not then as and when. She goes to bed at 730 and generally sleeps till 7 or 730.i think she has a chilled attitude. She has no monitor in her room. If she wakes and hears her or her older sister cry she obviously goes to them but she quite often leaves them to it if just chatting. She can't get why even if wakes chatting like last night I can't just sleep. I would love to think this way as we get our self's in such a tiss trying to follow all these rules I guess. Xx hope tonight goes OK xx

It's really easy to be breezy if your baby sleeps though isnt it.

My anxiety is through the roof.

Hi puppy. Do u no what I did last week. I turned the monitor off and I just thought The kids can't get out and if they are crying really loudly we will here and if he's chatting he will hopefully go back. I didn't hear anything till 6.It was tough as I woke up a few times for a listen but my anxiety was going so mad and not helped by lack of sleep that I had try something. At the end of the day they are safe and we will here them if destressed. Mine needs to learn to self sooth so maybe this is the best way. Getting rid of bottle at night feed and replacing it was tommie tippie is good to x

When very young, it's great for not letting the baby/toddler overtired and fretful at night. There comes a time though when even a 5 minute power nap means they are awake til midnight.

@SnowWhite26 mine hasn't had a feed in the night for about 9 months but I definitely agreed that helped the wake ups!
How are you getting on? We are around the 5.45 mark, with 30 mins nap in the morning and up to 2hrs in the afternoon. Dont know how to break the cycle really - bedtime is usually 7 but we had an issue last night and he wasnt in bed til 7.20 and he didnt go to sleep til 8 - I worry that isnt enough nighttime sleep really.

Oh my goodness what a week! We were getting somewhere with sleeping through again and now back to square one. He is had a cold temp teething thing. So everyday has been waking up in the night crying and chatting. My oh and me are so exhausted. I am working today and tommorow and do not no what to do about naps anymore as he woke at 430 and refused to go back to sleep today. I am feeling so down as I am not sleeping well when I can as I'm waiting. Have a long day at work today so he's totally out if my control nap and food wise :( He has 6 teeth and I can't see any coming through so really dunno what to do x How's it going for you puppy?