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5 year Old cannot drop off. Help!

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JoanieCash · 16/11/2019 21:37

Help! My 5 year old cannot drop off. Am after advice in breaking recent bad habits.

My 5 year old has always been a slightly tricky sleeper. Once asleep, stays asleep but always difficult to drop off, even As a baby didn’t like napping etc, and ‘passed out’ rather than dropped off. But was going through the night at 7 months, was dry at night by 2.6 years. I thought life was sweet but........about a year ago, her asthma kicked off seriously, was bad and I was up at night giving blue inhaler nightly every 4 hours for about 5 months. I was so worried about her breathing that I moved her into my bed at night so I could keep an eye. That was genuinely justified as she was in and out of hospital, and her breathing went off quickly, but is now all finally controlled. Around that time she also started bed wetting, which I attributed to starting school, disrupted sleep due to asthma, possibly new meds etc and brushed it off (put her into pull ups after a bit as couldn’t keep up with washing) and thought it would all settle down in due course when asthma better. So roll-on best part of a year: we’re in Y1 at school all going well, asthma well controlled, but she really struggles to drop off. We do bath, book, bed and is in bed normally around 7.30, but rarely asleep until 9-9.15. She lies quietly in her room but wide awake. She’s not on any meds that could do it now (previously had montelukast which might have contributed, but off that for months). I feel so desperately sad as she’s yawning during day and is clearly tired but just cannot drop off. She also typically comes into our room at about 4 am, climbs into our bed and drops off immediately, and we’ve tried taking her back, but she reappears in our bed 20 minutes later. She’s so deeply asleep at that point. So in a year I’ve gone from a child with a decent bedtime routine, dry at night since 2.6 yrs, to a child that cant drop off until after 9pm, bed wetting and coming into ours 5 nights a week at 4 am.

Any suggestions how we knock this on the head? we’ve tried what feels like dozens of combinations without effect but would be keen for advice with fresh eyes.

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User260486 · 17/11/2019 19:01

I do not have any advice, sorry, but watching with interest. I have a similar situation with my five year old - routine, bath, book, etc, happy to stay in bed but finding it so hard to fall asleep. Slightly quicker if one of us stays in the room, but still takes more than an hour. It looks like he just "re-lives" his day when he is in bed with all the excitements and frustrations and just cannot switch off. Sometimes comes to us at night but that is not a problem for me, taking time to fall asleep is. Almost never asleep before 9 pm, so not well rested in the morning with early-ish school start time. Will sleep till 8/8-30 am on the weekend.

RedPoppiesAndSpots · 17/11/2019 21:47

My only advice is to start a detailed sleep diary. What are the light/temp/noise levels like when she first goes to bed/cannot sleep/comes to you etc etc

I had to do that when DD had a similar sleep "regression" although she was 2.5 at the time. Turns out she was cold when trying to settle and wanted the reassurance of a big heavy blanket. The sleep diary helped because in the middle of the night I couldn't see any patterns)issues. I write down stuff as it happened and within 3 days I could see what finally got her to settle and stay

User260486 · 18/11/2019 20:37

Thank you for the suggestion - I have a heavier blanket so will try that. In our case, if we are not away, all other variables are the same. I also got a relaxing bath soak and pillow spray, so will start experimenting with those.

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