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Help - sleep patterns gone cuckoo - why?

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WidgetWB · 21/09/2004 21:22

Ok - to set the scene - dream child, slept through from 7pm till 7/8am every night without fail at 4 weeks. Dropped the 10pm feed at 10 weeks and again not a squeak. Have had only one night in six months of him waking up, and he was not well. Apart from that we have a very happy, laughing, giggly child! And now... suddenly, for the last week he has been waking up at 9pm and starting to cry but then stops after about a minute of not really getting going and then at 10pm he wakes up screaming. You can set your clock by him. You can't help but go in as its really proper screaming and he won't settle himself (we have tried leaving him) he looks around, maybe does a tiny burp, or not, then smiles and goes back down happily, or grizzles a bit and then goes back till 7/8am! What the hell is that about?

I might add that he has been quite different since we changed from SMA Gold to Progress (please don't tell me I didn't need to change coz its all a marketing ploy - I didn't know that at the time but thanks to Mumsnet - I do now!)a week of being really grumpy and horrid, and its now been about four weeks of sleeping problems. We haven't had one night in four weeks of him sleeping the whole way through - for no reason - what is going on?

He is almost 7 months old and is trying to crawl so some people have suggested that its because he is frustrated, but I am not so sure because he isn't during the day - just quite happy - now!

Why is it always 9pm a little bit and then 10pm a lot? I thought maybe I was starving him as one night we gave in and fed him and then he went down, but I feed him so so much during the day to make sure that he isn't hungry at night and still he wakes - and if he was hungry then he wouldn't go down after 10pm until he had been fed and nor would he sleep till 7/8am!

He doesn't have a dummy, doesn't like them!

HELP PLEASE?????????????????????????????????

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EvesMama · 21/09/2004 21:30

you've probably had this suggested a million times, but could it be his teeth? my dd was very leate getting her first and tends to be worse a night as if she wakes up, she doesnt have anything else to take her mind off it?
also, my dd can have a really deep sleep from 7.30pm till the exact time i go to bed! even though i am sooo quiet, i've been told its all to do with different levels of sleep and how well they settle themselves? havent used this technique, but have read---if you expect them to wake them up at a certain time, get them up between an hour to 15 minutes before, dont wake them, maybe just pick them up, have a cudle/drink/bottle, then back down. read thet loads of times in baby mags, hope ive been of some help.

WidgetWB · 21/09/2004 21:40

Not sure I can bring myself to get him up if he's not awake but will try if all else fails. Thank you for your help but not too sure if it is teeth as the one and only one is through now so that probably wouldn't be hurting too much. It must be something to do with sleep patterns I think, but not sure why he is coming too!

Having said that you could time your watch by him, he started at 9pm and then didn't make it till 10pm - he just screamed at 9.30pm instead. I went up, gave him a cuddle and put him down again with a smile and now - hopefully - he's gone till the morning! Should be hugely grateful that this is happening before we go to bed, but it doesn't make it easy if we leave him with a babysitter!

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WidgetWB · 21/09/2004 21:54

Also - one more thing - can someone in London tell me what their baby is sleeping in at the moment - are your babies in 2.5 tog bags yet or are they still in 1 tog and what are they wearing as clothes? Mine is in short sleeved vest, all over body grow and 1 tog bag. He doesn't feel cold when I go and pick him up so not sure if its that, but just wondering what the majority were in.

  • he is crying now so up for another exciting night I think! Great!
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dot1 · 22/09/2004 08:51

Hello - we've got a nearly 6 month old who's also driving us to the brink with interrupted nights... He also used to sleep like an angel, but over the past couple of weeks has started waking up at 5.30am (TOO EARLY!) and now a couple of times in the night aswell. He can't possibly be hungry as we stuff him with food and milk during the day! I reckon it's teething - he settles back pretty quickly in the night if I rub bonjela on his gums. Won't settle back at 5.30am though...

No help at all really, just sympathy and the sincere hope that this is a phase they're going through - a very short phase...!

yingers74 · 22/09/2004 14:58

hello! my dd is in a bodysuit, sleep suit and 1 tog sleeping bag. The central heating kicks in soon so am not too worried about changing the tog yet, but will do so probably in Oct!

TracyK · 24/09/2004 20:16

my 6.5mo ds is also a blooming nightmare this past week or so. He used to wake at 3 or 4 for a feed and then straight back to sleep till 7 ish. Now he's been waking too at 11 ish, 1ish and 3ish!!
I don't feel he does eat very much during the day (altho bf so can't tellhow much milk). But not drooling or red cheeks so don't think it's teething.
Last night was the worst ever - woke at 11 after having 8 oz at 8 - gave him another 4 oz and he wouldn't settle at all.
Decided he was taking the piss and left him to cry. He then howled for what seemed like ages and then fell asleep only to wake again at 12, 1, 2, 3 and I eventually went in to him at 5. I found him out of his gro bag, out from under his quilt and sitting up in the corner of his cot, sobbing, wet and dirty nappy. Boy did I feel guilty!!
I really, really hope I don't have to do the same again tonight.
He's quite a small 6.5mo and I'm sure he doesn't get enough during the day which is why I'm loathe to leave him - but I don't want him waking at 11 out of habit. I don't mind getting up at 3/4 ish as he could well be hungry then.
Maybe I should try a dream feed??

WidgetWB · 28/09/2004 21:55

TracyK - you poor thing having to find that in the morning - I know guilty feelings are horrendous - hope you are ok now! How on earth did he get out of his growbag - that is seriously impressive!!! Hope that he is sleeping better now.

Thought that you would all like to know that I have sorted the nightmare out - not quite sure exactly what it was, but noticed that one night I gave him yoghurt instead of fruit and rice for pudding at supper and he slept through, but then also started feeding him more, and also noticed that his red cheeks had gone down so therefore not teething anymore - so one of those things cracked it, and I am still doing two out of three - the cheeks are out of my control! Any ideas as it if it is fruit at night - why?

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