Lucy Wolfe sleep consultant

[booklover164]

I just wondered if anyone had any success implementing the Lucy Wolfe approach? I'm on day 4 and wondered if anyone had any tips/advice? Thanks

No advice or tips but I'm currently failing to try and start the approach in her book. How's it going for you?

Last night we made the decision to stop co sleeping and put my 7mo in his own room. He screamed the place down from 7.30 until 11pm until I gave in and brought him into bed with me. All attempts to soothe him without getting him out of his cot turn into total meltdowns.

I'm thinking of just trying to keep to the timings for a week or so and then work on breaking co sleeping when that's established.

Yes it seems like an awful lot to change at one point doesn't it. It started off really well and DS only woke a couple of times but resettled quickly. He even slept through twice but suddenly his sleep has got awful again and I feel like I'm back to square one! Have you seen your insta videos? They're quite useful. I understand it's meant to get worse before it gets better....

What is it?! Is it a personalised sleep plan or a technique everyone can use?!! Desperate over here 😂

It's a book called ' the baby sleep solution'. It's all about getting routines set up in the day to facilitate sleeping at night. How old is your baba? Think it's for over 6 months but could be wrong. X

Sounds like I need to buy it! My DS is 9 months...terrible sleeper...although actually not a bad napper 🤷🏼‍♀️ He has 2 naps per day now about 1.5hrs each...bed at 7pm...no probs...but then he wakes 1-2hourly all night 😴

@lottierich sounds exactly the same as my boy. Very good napper but awful sleeper at night. Is he breastfed? I found cutting the night feeds to be a good start...

Yes I think you're right...a few people said to me if I stop breast feeding at night it would help...I night weaned approx a week ago and so far it hasn't helped, in fact I'm up more 🙈 because instead of just a quick feed back to sleep he fusses on for ages 😕 I'm hoping short term loss for long term gain tho?? I've also been giving him a bottle of formula for bed now...again doesn't seem to have made any difference but at least DH could put him to bed now. I'm assuming the problem is the fact I still feed him to sleep at bedtime (whether it bottle or breast)...so guess I need to tackle that 😱

Yes I follow her on insta, her videos are helpful! I just don't think I've got the willpower to follow through, I know it'll involve a lot of crying as my DS is so resistant to any change to sleeping habits. His naps are generally only 20 mins max unless I'm holding him or he's in the pram, which means he's so overtired by bedtime! It doesn't help that he's learning to roll at the moment, he desperately wants to sleep on his side but can't quite get into position without waking himself up.

He came into bed with me a month or so ago as he was waking every 45 minutes through the night, has since got a bit better but he's still in the bed and DH is still on the sofa, so not ideal!

Oh no that's hard 😣 is there anyway you could push a small cot with the side off up against your bed? That's what we've done and it works a treat... if that's what you want. I however do want DS to sleep in his own room preferably.. but you do what you do to survive don't you?!
Well not sure how I feel about tonight's 1st attempt 😕 Normally I feed him to sleep and he sleeps 7-9pm ish.... tonight I fed him earlier and put him in the cot 100% awake at 6:50...he was asleep by 7:15...a little crying but mostly winging and I just sat with my hand on him...success...I thought? However, he's been waking back up every 20-25 mins 😫 Currently sat with my hand on him scared to move....

I’ve looked at loads of sleep approaches and never heard of her.

I hadn't either! I've since followed her on Instagram and like @BringMeThatHorizon suggested her videos are brilliant! I've ordered the book too on Amazon prime...going to do this 💪🏻😂
So last night after numerous wake ups between 7-8:45 he then slept 9-11am..quick dummy and shush/pat then slept til 3am all in his own room 😬 Gave in at 3am tho after it was clear he wasn't going to settle quickly and moved him back to cot next to my bed...regretting doing that now tho 🙄...but still...it's a start!
The only criticism I would say just from initial reading is that she's strict on the wake times and baby needs cot nap 2 hours after waking (which I'm sure is totally correct & not saying she's wrong!) but with other children needing nursery/school drop offs etc it's hard to accommodate fixed schedules like that isn't it 😕 She also seems to suggest 2nd nap should finish at 3:30 for 7pm bed...again not possible as on the school run 😕 So not sure how I work round it really?? Probs why he doesn't sleep 🤷🏼‍♀️😂

Does anyone kno if the Lucy Wolfe book is suitable for older babies? C.18m

@OhWifey she says it's for children up to 6 months :)

@OhWifey 6 years! Sorry x

Thank you!

Hi everyone. I know this is a bit of an old thread now but just wondering if the Lucy Wolfe approach worked for anyone? Still really struggling over here!

I started on Friday and while it is working well, I feel like it’s taking over my life a bit and there’s more crying than I hoped! You have to use the stay and support approach for every bedtime, night waking and nap, so currently having to steel myself to get my 7 month old DD to sleep at least 4 times a day! We couldn’t carry on the way we were but this is tough. I hope it’s a case of it gets worse before it gets better. And overall she is sleeping much better and now sleeping overnight and napping in her cot so have to see the bigger picture and see that there has been real progress!

We started on Friday - but a sort of a (lazy) adaptation of her method and just focused on the initial bedtime. The first night it took 35min and lot of crying (his and mine). Second night 5 minutes and a little whining. Since then he's taken 10min or less to fall asleep with no crying at all.

Since starting he's naturally been better through the night and at naps, putting himself back to sleep pretty easily. He's still waking about every 3hrs in the night and I've still been feeding back to sleep, but this weekend we're going to start the stay and support method overnight to stretch those feeds out as we know he doesn't actually need them.

Not sure Lucy Wolfe would agree with the staggered approach we've done with her method, but so far it's working for us!

I’m so reassured to read others’ experiences and see that you’re still getting results with adaptations! I’m finding myself getting really disheartened when I can’t follow the plan exactly but there’s so many elements to it, and I’m not very good at strict routine! However even on days when naps have gone wrong or things have gone a bit off track, the sleep is still a million times better than it was and she is learning to go to sleep by herself, so I just have to see the positives and not expect overnight perfection! Surely not many people could actually follow the plan to the letter, especially if they have other children (I don’t - hats off to anyone attempting this who do!) - and apparently Lucy’s routine is actually quite relaxed compared to others!

We have been following the plan since the end of April and sleep has got much better. My ds has always been a good napper but dreadful over night. I stopped breastfeeding him at night at 8 months and that made a massive difference too. The only downside is that he's up at 5 consistently now which is knackering! Her advice is to try to keep them in the cot until 6 but he just screams the place down. Has anyone else found this?

@PandaMum88 This is reassuring and much more the approach I'm planning! On the first night, how much active comforting did you do in the 35 minutes? DS does not tend to react well to me talking to him but not picking him up. Is it better to sit next to the cot and say shhh and a phrase over and over again or risk making him even angrier by patting/stroking his face etc.

He's already pretty good for naps and the first part of the evening (has to be rocked to sleep though), but will not settle anywhere other than our bed from about 11pm (with a lot of rocking!), and wakes multiple times, and I'm desperate for this to stop.

@booklover164
DS has always been an early riser, so I was expecting that. We've just started the Lucy Wolfe approach, but he's been up at 515 every day. He does get pretty upset, I think mainly because he's mad I'm there but not getting him up up play. This morning I was about to do the "exaggerated wake up" at 6 but looked down and he was going back to sleep! So it is possible

@BringMeThatHorizon There's no way I could stick with the super strict schedules some people do, so figured it would be better than nothing!

The first night was a lot of active comforting - rubbing his belly/stroking his hand and distraction - tapping the mattress/bars of the cot. I picked him up once when he was really upset, but it was actually worse when I put him back down. We used to rock him to sleep, so think he was just upset & confused that we picked him up but then didn't go back to rocking him.

It sounds like yours is a lot like mine...honestly I'd say give it a try at bedtime first to get your DS used to going to sleep without the rocking. That will be the first step. The first couple nights might be tough, but stick with it!