Ds started playing up at bed time........Does he need less sleep in the day ??

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Ds is 21mths and in the past few days he has started to shout when we put him to bed.
I leave him for a bit and then go in and lie him back down but he seems to be getting worse.

Dd2 had terrible sleep probs and I dread Ds being like that and so have always been quite strict with his sleep routines.

At the mo he has a 60-90 minute nap in the afternoon, should i try and shorten this ???

Don't think he's ready for no nap at all.

Meant to say also, that he is quite restless whilst asleep at night too.

He is still in our room at the mo as his still isn't done (dp's fault )

I think that it depends on what time he has it?

Oh meant to say that. He usually goes down from about 1pm until about 2.15/2.30pm.

And what does he sleep at night? 1-2/2.30 seems absolutely typical to me for a daytime sleep for a toddler this age.

My dd's 23 months and sleeps 10-11 hours at night and so really needs at least an hour in the day. On the odd occasion she's missed her day sleep she's been exhausted.

Now and then dd has done exactly what your ds is doing. She did it at 15 months and again a month or so ago and both times after trying all kinds of soft approaches we ended up doing a bit of cc with her and it worked. Neither time did she need more or less sleep, we tried everything like that and also tinkered around with her bedtimes, it seemed to be more to do with 'will' and not wanting to be left alone at bedtime.

He sleeps from about 7.30pm until about 6.45/7am.

Thought maybe he had some teeth coming trough.

My ds dropped his sleep of his own accord (much though I tried to make him still have one ), and it was at about 2y6m. Can you get him to have a late morning sleep? IME, waking them up early from a nap results in a grumpy toddler, rather than a 'more ready to sleep in the evening' one!

It was around this time that we started having problems getting ds to go to bed. I personally think that it is because they realise that they are a person in theor own right, and they are trying to assert their feelings. They realise that you are still up, and they want to be up with you.

No advice really, as dh and I spent months sitting on our bed with ds, trying to get him to sleep, and then transferring him to his cot. He almost instantly got better when in his 'big boy bed'. However, it does come right in the end. Ds has no nap during the day, and goes to bed happily at 6.30-7pm. He has his bath and two stories, and then goes to sleep almost immediately, as he is so tired.

Sounds about right to me. I was going to say was he tired enough to go to sleep at night if he was having a late sleep, but not the case.... Ds is nearly 17 months and does the same, but at the mo he isn't a problem at night.