please god help me sleep!

[tiredmumov3]

my youngest 18month ds is not sleeping unless i lie with him (sometimes for up to an hour.(i wouldnt mind but i have 2 other children and 1 on the way.he then sleeps for a couple of hours and is then wide awake until we go to bed the time seems irelevant as once i go to bed he will sleep if he can get in with me in our bed.which isnt ideal but have been putting up with it as a route to get some sleep.did try cc but he screamed until he threw up having only been left a couple of minutes this happened frequently so i stopped.
i have tried changing nap times cutting naps out encouraging extra ones bath time and stories im sure its nothing medical but i just dont know what to do next am going up now to lay him back in bed as he is still awake and very vocal!
any help appreciated

. Hven't got any constructive input. I expect some wise mnetter will come along soon with salvation . Just letting you know you ahve my sympathy!

oh, and congratulations!

thanks nice to know theres someone out there

and soon there will be someone who can help

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can someone help this poor mummy?!

There is a method called 'gradual withdrawel' I think (spelling not too hot this morning), which means that you slowly day by day over a few weeks move further away from him ie: day one sit next to the bed on a chair, day two move chair fractionally towards the door etc until you are by the door, in the doorway - out the door. I am sure if you google it there will be info on it. I know a friend did this successfully with her 2 year old.
Or look through the archived sleep threads on here. CC worked for us with DD, without too much trauma, but I certainly would have tried this route if DD had been screaming as you describe with your DS.

Good Luck!

sorry for you, i also have ayoung child who was awake sooo many times last night also waking up his big sister hope you get through the day

thanks will google gradual withdrawl cc is defo not gonna work for us.anyone got any advice on optimum nap times to encourage good sleep patterns at night? i just winged it with the other 2 and they eventually worked it out for themselves but its getting ridiculous with this one!
tia

I also used to lie down with my daughters (now 11 and 10), my memory is somewhat blurry - I didn't get much sleep and was working too. I I know I tried CC - which did work, and which I hated - so I can totally understand why you don't want to take that route.

With dd2, or maybe it was when dd1 lapsed back, I tried what mandymac refers to as gradual withdrawal. Anyway it involved dd in bed, and then sitting on the floor, until she went to sleep, and then either on subsequent nights, or say in batches of 3 nights, moving a little bit further away, until you are in the doorway, and then the other side of the door! It takes longer of course, but is less stressful than CC.

Your lying beside him is creating a sleep association, and when he stirs in the night he struggles to get back to sleep again, without you there. Think of trying to get to sleep without your pillow - the first few nights you would find it difficult, but after a while you would just adjust and sleep fine without one..

that makes sense cheers
i guess the most frustrating thing is that the evening where i clean up and have adult conversation with dh is pinched by the lil monkey.so the following morning im so tired and house is a tip .tried to encourage him to nap at 12:30 after lunch but it didnt work and instead he had 35 minutes after dozing off in the car when i fetched ds1 from school at 3:10 so perhaps another rough night ahead!

I had the same problem with dd, now 10, who I breastfed for 2.5 years - and not through choice! She never slept much in the day and woke up several times in the night. In the end I spoke to the health visitor who said to put her down when still awake (I used to feed her to sleep), keep it all calm, put music on, say it's bed time etc, and then leave the room. If/when you need to go back, avoid eye contact at all costs, no hugs etc, juct say quitely but firmly that's it's time for sleep and go. Keep on doing this, leaving longer times between going back - it's all a battle of wills at the end of the day!! I actually just went to the bottom of the garden with a beer and left DH to listen to the crying and didn't actually keep on going into the bedroom - it felt a bit like the health visitor had given me permission to let her cry!!!! and guess what - it only took 3 dayS .
I think with him throwing up you need to stay close, but if he does, just go in, tidy up, say goodnight and leave - sounds horrible but you're the boss.
Anyway, just thought I'd contribute my bit in passing - am actually on here to get advice for spoilt teenagers......

what is the prob with the teenager

thanks alot incidentally i work with teenagers with behavioural issues if i can help let me know
cheers again
v.tiredmumov3