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How do I get her off the bottle?

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Mumontheegde · 26/12/2018 02:28

so I need advice fast mums? I haven’t ever asked for help since joining this but I’m in dier need!!!
I’m a working mum of two I have a partner that also works full time and is pretty useless when it comes to day and night logistics of having children (essentially it’s easier doing it myself!! Although By choice during the day anyway) I’m a assistant manager of a nursery that both my children have went to since they were three months old. So there life has always been structured to every hour. But they love it, and all the staff! And all the staff love them. I have a boy who is one and a half and sleeps like a gem, but needs a bottle to do so. I have a four and half year old that has always been a terrible sleeper, from day one I done it wrong. I couldn’t breastfeed despite days of trying eventually giving up. She took to a bottle straight away and was colic, but she was my first so looking back now I most likely pandered to her needs and found it hard! Considering not being able to breastfeed was like a massive fail as a mother! I couldn’t not T me I couldn’t! Anyway I slept next to her until I fell pregnant with my boy!!! So we are talking two and half years of me going back and forth EVERY NIGHT with her!! The only reason I stopped was because I had such a bad second pregnancy that I didn’t even sleep so I just couldn’t care anymore. Still working fifty hours a week mind you! Anyway she starts school in August next year, two months before turning five......and still wakes up every night demanding a baby TOMMI TIPPE BOTTLE and cry’s if she doesn’t get one! And I need to lay next to her to get her sleep, to get her to sleep and if she wakes up through the night. But let me tell you she is smart and is incredibly independent. She walked, and spoke in full sentences and was toilet trained by 1 and half butni can NOT get her off the bottle! What do I do???????

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Mumontheegde · 26/12/2018 02:38

Also I should mention that I don’t won’t to waken my younger child because I’m on my own most nights and have to work a 10 shift the next day. So a way to get her to sleep without waking the younger child would be most appropriated....I mean it’s a miracle if anyone can give me an answer.

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faithinthesound · 26/12/2018 03:32

Slightly off topic and irreverent but I suspect after this Christmas my mother will be asking the same question about me—and I'm 34! 😂

Sorry, I couldn't resist a wee joke at my own expense. Hope the rest of the comments are better advice than I can offer 😊

Mumontheegde · 29/12/2018 23:42

I think my partner asks himself that every day no matter the time of the year! Maybe there is a pattern unfolding!
No one else seems to have the same problem considering no one writing back! Apart from you, which was witty regardless 😉

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GreenTulips · 29/12/2018 23:47

Throw the bottles away

AssassinatedBeauty · 29/12/2018 23:52

Your partner needs to help you. You explain to your older child that she is too old for a bottle and that x night is the last night with one. I would let her have a small bottle of water, one that's suitable for her age rather than a baby bottle. Then on the night that you've decided, you just say no to her and deal with any tantrumming, fuss or unsettled sleep. Your partner can deal with your other child if they are woken up. Your partner may need to organise annual leave from work to be there to help with this.

I would deal with the bottle first and then work on not needing you to sleep next to her once she has accepted that there is no more bottle.

LovingLola · 29/12/2018 23:59

Maybe dealing with your useless partner first might be your best option.

LovingLola · 29/12/2018 23:59

Why do people continue to have children with useless partners never ceases to amaze me.,.

Mumontheegde · 30/12/2018 01:23

I’m very surprised that from that brief Paragraph about my life you took from it that my partner is useless.
You do not know our circumstances or anything about our life, I appreciate that I said I’m on my own at night but didn’t feel the need to elaborate on the topic and why!

Other than that the advice actually given in good nature and not judgment thank you!

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Mumontheegde · 30/12/2018 01:32

And for the record my partner works extremely hard, based away to provide for our family and support my career. He is very supportive so I find your comment about “people continuing to have children with useless parents” very complacent in this topic. Don’t use words loosely in black and white.
But more or less thanks for the advise

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AssassinatedBeauty · 30/12/2018 01:40

If your partner can't be around to help then you may have to accept that your younger child may be disturbed by any noise from your older child. But if you want to get rid of the bottle then you'll have to put up with some short term pain.

Mumontheegde · 30/12/2018 01:52

Well as off tonight I’ve taken it away, and the first night went well 👍🏻

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threechildren · 30/12/2018 02:27

Oh ontheedge, I could have written your post a few years ago! No judgment from me at all.
I have a similar dh. I have done all night parenting for 12 years.

You just need a good plan.

I wouldn't actively explain/ tell dd that she is too big for a baby bottle. What is the point of that? To make dd upset?? To make dd wish that she were smaller and a baby?

I would think that you need to help dd to reject and throw out the baby bottles. Do this in the daytime.

How about you and dd discover that all the baby bottles are 'dirty'? (But that she can drink at any time in the night out of the lovely clean nice new children's water bottle that will be either on her bedside table or in her bed).

A Plan:
(1) Go and buy a good kids water bottle - the sort that can be tossed in school bags and won't leak even if it is lying on its side.
(2) Collect all the baby bottles. Get your dd to help you do this.
(3) "Check" the baby bottles together and then you and dd can "discover" that they are "extremely dirty" or "broken".

(4) With dd helping, throw all baby bottles out.
(5) Dd can fill up her new drink-bottle with water (and maybe a couple of ice cubes...) before she gets in bed.
I did the above and there was no tantrum / screaming. My dd woke up the first night crying for bottle and I tiptoed in and whispered that she could help herself to the lovely clean drink by her bed.

With the lying next to her in order for her to go to sleep, I've been there as well...

My mother gave me great advice for this. My mother told me to make sure that the bed / bedroom is always a nice, snuggly, relaxing place for your dd. So you need to really avoid threats / being cross / letting her be scared / too much rigidity. Have you got a nightlight? If not, you might need to buy one and also a special soft toy for cuddling.

With my dd, I had to make changes because I needed her to be independent before her little brother was born. It took 2 months. So I started by instead of lying next to her while she fell asleep, I put the soft toy next to her and I just sat on her bed in the dark - maybe next to her, or maybe at the foot of the bed.

Once she is comfortable with that, you sit on the floor with her holding your finger. Then after a few nights, you sit in the middle of her room (sing or hum or tell story) and don't cuddle her while she goes to sleep... and so on. Eventually you can happily sit in the corridor outside her room and she will be comfortable going off to sleep on her own.

You need to reinforce this with night wakings. When she wakes up in the night, as well as whispering to her that should might like to help herself to a sip from her clean water bottle, (ie don't you give yourself a new job of handing the water bottle to her in the night!) I used to find the soft toy and whisper "cuddle Blue bear"... "Blue bear is soft" "Sleepy sleep" etc for a few minutes and then she would be asleep again. Don't turn the light on when you go in.

You must be very tired - night parenting is relentless.

Take care of yourself, and if you are overwhelmed, just try and fix one problem at a time - if I were you, I'd deal with the baby bottles first. Then handle the lying next to her when you have enough strength.

P.S. I found all of these issues were made more difficult because my dd was ready to night-time toilet train at the same time that I was trying to get her to sleep quietly all night. It is counter-productive to try to soothe a child back to sleep when they have woken up to use the loo.... So if she doesn't settle fast with whispering, help her tiptoe to the loo and then straight back into bed with no lights on.

AssassinatedBeauty · 30/12/2018 02:31

I'd advise telling an age appropriate truth rather than an elaborate fiction about bottles being broken or dirty. Which is bonkers.

LovingLola · 30/12/2018 08:46

You said yourself that’s your partner is useless Brew

Mumontheegde · 31/12/2018 08:26

Yeah because he isn’t here! He is away or working nights. As I said before I didn’t feel the need to elaborate on that for other people’s benefits as I was asking for advise on my child not my relationship which is completely in tact. But in the future il remember that unfortunately as a society people latched on to anything and make it negative! Thanks to those who didn’t pass judgement

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