What sort of AT for a 10mo please

[Jellybabie3]

DS is so active now I think I am missing the tired cues. He may also be going from 2 to 1 naps? Some days he is tired after 2 hours then sleeps for 2 hours but others I put him down after 3 hours and he only does 1. We are flip flipping alot!!
Either way he fights it hard. No longer self settling. I lay him in the cot and hes straight on all fours crying and crawling hysterically. Only sitting in our chair and singing calms him to the point I can lay him down 90% asleep. I wondered if its likely that the self settling has stopped because hes crawling or I am just really not grasping when he wants to sleep atm. Maybe I should be consistently pushing him to 3 hours AT?

He wakes usually at 11pm 3am and 5am for feeds in the night

Any advice welcome!

3 hours here and then 3.5 before bedtime.
I go by the clock as he shows no sleep
Cues!
It took us longer for him To self settle once crawling began but he’s realised he needs to sleep and it’s gone back to taking a few minutes (not 15!)

Ah OK. Does your DC cry though as my son is hysterical rocking about until I hold him so he doesnt self settle in any way anymore

He cries if I rock him! Infact I used to cry rocking him coz I couldn’t uunderstand why he wouldn’t sleep with rocking. Anyway turns out he doesn’t like me doing it?! Or if I pat him he thinks it’s trime to play and kicks his legs and crawls about and I can’t get him still! So I have to leave him to it. He sometimes cries for a max of 1 minute then rolls arounda and drops off. I do a full
Nap routine of quickbook gro bag and Ewan the sheep before I do lights off

Ps my lo upped the crying when I think I was putting him down too early so I extended the wake times and now he doesn’t cry or like I said it’s only 30s-1 minute (I timed it as it felt like forever to me!£

My 10month old DD is having issues with sleep and naps atm. I sleep trained her at 6 months and it was wonderful, within 2 days she slept through the night and would go down for her naps so easily self settling.

Now she is up multiple times in the nights and naps are such battles. She'll just sit straight up and stand at the bars crying. So I end up going in to lay her down like 10 times before she'll sleep. I try (after the initial cuddle and put down) not to get her up for more cuddles but I don't know if it's right or not

Credit to you for still dealing with all those night feeds! Can you not night wean? Surely if he's eating well in the day there's no need for milk in the night.
It may then well help him settle into a better daytime routine?
At 10m we had:

Wake up 6.30am
Nap 1 9am (45m, woke up if necessary)
Nap 2 1pm (ideally 2 hours)
Bedtime 7pm

Hmm i have thought about night weaning but don't know where to start (and am a wimp about crying)

I have exactly same routine as bearclub except he’s going through a phase of not doing the 2 hours but hoping it sorts itself out!

Jelly have u tried to go in for a cuddle leave and then go back in and keep doing that? Or the gradual retreat method? We used to feed ours to sleep so he could self settle for naps but not bedtime. Heused to Wakeup in night but hardly had much milk. So I I stopped feeding to sleep and put him down awake just like his naps and since then he’s not woken for a feeed?! I couldn’t quite believe it was that easy for us! And he didn’t cry he just grizzled and went to bed. I know my friend night weaned by not feeding but cuddling or rocking back to sleep and then once feeds were gone reduced rocking / cuddling and then patting and then just ssh and then nothing-it also worked and I was going to do that (but not rock!) but mine just stopped as soon as I stopped feeding to sleep.

Yeah ive stopped feeding to sleep and done gradual retreat (of sorts) at 6mo which taught him to self settle. Its like at 10mo and crawling hes forgot...

My nearly 8 month old has started standing and crawling and it can be huge battles at bed. Sometimes has a play with the new skills quite happily for 30 mins before laying down to sleep. Others gets on all fours and rocks crying. She won't feed or be cuddled to sleep so I just keep going back and feeding and eventually on one of those she calms enough to be out down or a bit of a whinge before falling asleep.

As an aside, those on routines... do you cone home for both naps? Mine doesn't nap for longer than 30 mins on the go so we cone home, limits us on day trips somewhat!

My lo is refusing this nap this am and crying and craeling and pulling cot bars too!?! Just as I said he didn’t!!

I’ve had to put him in car :( slept the moment it started and got moving. I’ve not had to do this in months.
I’m wondering is separation anxiety starting ? Not sure wot to do if it is!

Catheroo mine same. Only 30
Mins out so I come back for the afternoon nap or give him longe one in cot in am and go or for day
He does longer in car seat so plan long journeys around that!

I usually do come home for naps which isnt ideal. He has 1.5 hours in the morn ish and 1 hour afternoon may be giving us a window of about 3 hours in the day. Morning taken up by breakfast and after the evening nap is taken uo with dinner and getting ready for bed. Today I threw caution the the wind though ans have took him to a baby group this morning and hes only had 30min since 7am. See how this turns out!!

My 9 month old is awake for 3-4 hours between naps now. I look out for signs of tiredness (for him he's a bit whingey and rubs his eyes; if I pick him up he starts rubbing is face on my shoulder) but the signs usually appear in that time frame.

This age seems to be really tough on sleep/naps, like you said it's like they've forgotten how to self-settle or that they need sleep!

I think (and kind of hope) teething is playing a part. dS has woke every 2 hours for the past few nights and we are back to the 'wont settle without the boob' scenario. He has 4 coming through . Not screaming in pain but I think the feeds soothe him.

Weve missed a lot of naps this week as we have been so busy. I definately need to get him back on track!