Do I need to sleep train? Can't cope with hourly waking much longer.

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ds turned 5 a few weeks ago, never a good sleeper but has got progressively worse and now he's waking hourly. He was breastfed but now he's formula before bed and one bf in the night. He doesn't want milk during the night anymore. When he wakes up he doesn't even really want a cuddle, it's like he's annoyed he's awake! Co sleeping makes no difference. He's then up for the day about 5 but furious about it, I'm guessing cos he's bloody tired!

He has never napped for longer than about an hour unless sleeping on me while I sit on the sofa.

Is it just that he's completely unable to self settle? It just seems crazy. I've never liked the idea of sleep training but wondering if I need to do it with him.

Oh fuck off

Yes op !
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OP, sleep training was the best thing I ever did. Similar to pp I was being driven to the brink by an hourly waker. The thing that eventually worked for us was seeing a sleep consultant. She probably didn't say anything I hadn't already read by scouring books and Mumsnet, but because I was so fucking tired having just one person give you simple instructions made all the difference, plus the follow up phone calls. DD went from 13 wake ups a night to sleeping through in 3 days. Anyone who says that is cruel clearly hasn't experienced the hell of exhausted baby plus mother.
We used Andrea Grace who was amazing, but I'm sure there are lots of similarly lovely people out there.
Good luck, and don't feel guilty. We teach our children to eat properly, walk, talk, read and so on, so why such a hang up about teaching them how to develop healthy sleep habits?

Do you know what's cruel? Not helping your child to sleep leading to sleep deprivation and misery for both of you.
I never did CIO but did CC for 3 nights when my DD was about 6 months (night weaned at the same time). She now very rarely wakes in the night, unless I'll and she wakes in the morning chatting to her cuddly toys.
We are all well rested and she is a different child in the day as she isn't sleep deprived either.

www.babysleepsite.com/sleep-training/5-sleep-training-methods-explained/

Ignore the smug twats, OP. They must be terribly insecure in their own parenting if they’re so keen to criticise others.

Sleep training my DS was the best thing we ever did, and we only endured six weeks of sleepless nights because we adopted him at 13mo. Prior to this he was always a fantastic sleeper so we knew be was capable of it. 6 weeks of DH and I being exhausted and struggling to bond with an equally exhausted baby. One night of controlled crying, which ultimately lasted 90 minutes (going in after two minutes, then three, then five, then ten etc), and he has slept through every single night since. It's been five months now! If he's I'll he wakes earlier, but more like 5am rather than 1am or 2am. He will then come in for a cuddle with us and fall straight back to sleep until 8am.

Yes op !
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Sleep deprivation means I have a very low tolerance for smug people that start their posts with the word "DICTIONARY"

Sleep training was a revelation for me, it was amazing. Everyone was so much happier after and dd enjoyed everything so much more when she was well rested.

Unfortunately in my sleep deprived state, I listened to the 'sleep training is cruel' twats for a long time and so we suffered much longer than necessary. I'd get on with it now op .