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yes its me...what to do with a 2 year old that doesnt involve cc

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popsycal · 09/05/2007 20:45

not sure where to start without boring you all to death

actauuly dont know why i am typing this
should just surender myself to a life without sleep

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mrsmalumbas · 09/05/2007 20:46

I favour the "standing outside the bedroom yelling just go to bloody sleep NOW" approach.

FrannyandZooey · 09/05/2007 20:49

popsy I can't remember where we were at

can you give us a quick rundown of the situation atm?

LucyJones · 09/05/2007 20:51

If they are in a bed and keep getting out you say the first time:
"it's bedtime, time to go to sleep"
2nd time "it's bedtime"
3rd time and numerous other times - no talking, just carry straight back to bed

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popsycal · 09/05/2007 20:56

brief summaRY
never slept

night feeding til 18 months and co-sleeping
managed to get him back in cot and not night feeding
illness around christmas resulted in return to nigt feeding and in our bed again

february - camped out on his floor for 3 weeks...shush and pat - conquered night feeding again. hated cot got a bed the day before 2nd birthday
loved it
was doing 7pm til 5am ish

then has had a weird nose thing going on which doc thinks is adenoids and referred to see consultant but now back in our bed from arounf 1am (easier than getting up and down 10 times) . not night feedng but morning feed is getting eariler

also, ds1 has decided to revert to 5am waking recently

argh

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popsycal · 09/05/2007 20:57

wakes many tims
if left in old bed, screams, shouts, begs to go in my bed, cries that his nose is hurting, wont have medicine, wants cuddles, doesnt want cuddles, want me to go out, wants me to come back in, etc etc etc

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popsycal · 09/05/2007 21:02

i also have a weeing/sleep apnea theory/theories which i dont really know what i csn do about

bad english but you know what i mean

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fishie · 09/05/2007 21:03

poor poor popsy and poor ds nose. does his medicine stop it hurting? does bf?

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popsycal · 09/05/2007 21:08

he is mouth breathing constantly and always poking and pordding his nose. sniffing but outwards, gosh i am sure there is a real word for that. the opposite of sniffing. one doc thought it was an infection. ABs. nothing. sent to a and e to see if there was anything up it, more ABs. ds2 wont take them but were more of a precaution. back to doc. thinks its adenoids. more ABs (havent even treid to get them in him) went to bed tonight cryng about his nose. will no doubt wake soon saying 'sore nose mammy juice baba (BF)'

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popsycal · 09/05/2007 21:09

th only time he will breathe through his nose is when BF - doc said he doesnt really count that as nose breathing as he has no choice then and he is doing it as he really wants to feed. didnt explain that very well sorry

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fishie · 09/05/2007 21:21

well it does sound like he was more settled before this problem. if its hurting there isn't much you can do other than feed and soothe him, i bet it does relieve his pain (isn't bm analgesic?)

ds has also just gone into a bed and also seems pretty happy (only day 4 though so not over confident!)

barbamama · 09/05/2007 21:30

no advice really just sympathy for you both.

Have you tried those decongestant sprays or a vapouriser in the room?

kiskidee · 10/05/2007 13:22

have you tried giving him his med in a syringe? i know that is not the main answer to things but.... dd likes to dose herself with the syringe (after i fill it for her )

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popsycal · 10/05/2007 17:50

sometimes he will sometimes he wont....

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popsycal · 11/05/2007 14:34

i feel as tired as i did at the newborn stage
wtf to do

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lucyellensmum · 11/05/2007 15:39

popsycal, nothing to offer im afraid, just empathy

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popsycal · 14/05/2007 06:14

feeling very shit today
had a massive argument with dh in the middle of the night blaming me for 'the way our life is today' the arse. Apparently it is all my doing and I have done nothing in the past 2 years to sort it out

he slept on the sofa the bloody fool

i don't often hold grudges or give the silent treatment - dont really see the point - but i really wont be talking to him today. what an absolute t**r

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popsycal · 14/05/2007 08:10

can anyone offer any suggestions
i reallt hve had enough

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Rantum · 14/05/2007 08:23

I can't offer any non-CC advice with any knowledge cos we did it with ds when he was a year and it worked for us.

Have you checked that he is not thirsty when he is going to bed and waking really wanting a drink?

These days if ds wakes in the night we just go in to him, give him a hug and tell him it is nighttime and to go back to sleep.

Each time he gets up thereafter we hug him and then put him back to bed.

Usually that works, sometimes I need to be a bit more stern and tell him "GO TO SLEEP!".

I appreciate that this may sound too much like CC and maybe you are not comfortable with that, but as I said it works for us and my philosophy is that a well rested child and a well rested mummy = a much happier home life. Good luck x

Rantum · 14/05/2007 08:24

Really sorry about your argument btw - I am sure that tiredness makes everyone lose a bit of perspective and he was just tired and frustrated and expressed it badly by taking it out on you.

rattleskuttle · 14/05/2007 08:36

haven't read thread before so sorry if i'm just repeating stuff.
one of my 5 dcs is a bad sleeper like this. she is 3 now.
what helps us:
bed is raised 6 inches at the top
we have a small sofa in our bedroom and she can come into our room at any time in the night to sleep there, BUT she has to start the night in her room and we usually carry her back to her bed when one of us wakes at 5 or 6.
she has a small amount of water in her beaker all night and her potty close by.
walks in the evening and a bath help her sleep.
she sleeps better when slightly cold
as for the adenoids, perhaps your ds could have an op.
hth

rattleskuttle · 14/05/2007 09:00

oh, forgot to say - worming might help

BikeBug · 14/05/2007 09:17

popsy, this isn't my experience, but my mums (with me). I was an appalling sleeper, and mum says the thing that helped was putting me in a proper bed not a cot. Apparently once I could just get out the challenge was gone and I slept far better. Never great, but better. I don't know how old your lo is, but it might be worth considering - it's a bit counter intuitive, but that was my families experience for what it's worth. Huge sympathies.

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popsycal · 14/05/2007 14:07

Thanks for posting everyone.
He is already in a bed - believe it or not, he has been way worse than this and a bed helped to sort it out. His head end of the bed is already raised. Have tried all combinations of heat in his room, all different pyjamas, covers, etc. He has a big drink before bed and has a beaker of water next to his bed. The hug and 'go to sleep' don't work. We have full on tantrums.

Oh god - I sound ungrateful for all of the advice. but I have tried nearly everything and nothing works

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