instead of arguing over sleep methods-help me!

[kittypants]

i assume as everyone is argueing over sleeping methods that your all experts-so i could do with some advice please!(thats not ment to sound as rude as it does though!im nice really!)
my 15 is not sleeping,he goes bed good-with bottle in mouth though,sleeps to maybe 11pm then up constantly till 6ish,last night he was wide awake at 3am ready for day and didnt resettle.naps he usually has 2 hours in morning but is getting hard to put down for that,again with bottle in mouth.till he was 8 months we coslept and he slept great,then at about 11 months he went into cot,slept bit better but still up between 2-10 times a night!we tried ncss which although i loved and took bits from,including routines didnt work for us,then we tried baby whisperer which was great but we went to stay with sister and it all fell apart.i have 2 other children also who although not disturbed by him-have grumpy mummy in morning!

It sounds like the bottle in the mouth when going to sleep may be the problem. He wakes up and thinks, "Hey, who took my bottle?"
Perhaps you should try to feed him his bottle first, then put him to bed. It may take a while for him to get used to it but it may work.
I read somewhere that if you are used to going to sleep every night with a pillow and as soon as you are asleep someone takes it away and hides it, you will wake up pretty pissed off that it isn't there any more. Good comparison ...

If Baby Whisperer worked once try it again. Only this time be consistent every time. He'll get it in the end.

thankyou.so no bottle!should i do same at naps too?i know he shouldnt go sleep with it in his mouth anyway and i can see your point.

How old is he kitty?

15 months

Definitely time to drop the bottle in mouth thing. Isn't it bad for his teeth?
It will need a bit of work though. Good luck

im sure it is bad for teeth yes.camping in garden with dc tonight so will leave it for tonight.

I agree with others, give bottle before bed & then put him down.

You said BW worked, try it again & be patient as it may take a while...Good luck!

You have to make a time and work out a way. So a night when you are camping won't work ... plan it. Stick to your plan. It'll work out ...
There will be ways that don't make you feel like you are being cruel (haven't read other thread but I don't need to they are all the same on that topic)

i have read other thread and as i said on this one,instead of ranting and raving about rights and wrongs start dishing out advice to those who need it,if you can argue on a thread that long you can offer little old me a bit of advice
so thanks ScottishThistle,i saw you on other thread and for what its worth,your experience means alot when dishing out advice(i know you were told it wasnt as you 'just looked after them' or whatever was said).right so will get out bw book and get planning!its taken 2 hours now for him to settle for nap and he still fidgety!almost lunch time too!

You do need to stop his going to sleep with bottle in mouth. Instead lay him down when he's had a feed. You could lie beside the cot giving him a bit of a pat if he cries and going "shhh". It's Ferber who says that if you go to sleep with something there, but it isn't there when you come into lighter sleep then that will jolt you fully awake and you will want it back before you go to sleep. ie imagine someone takes your pillow away while you are sleeping - very disconcerting! Also, is he warm enough? My children have always slept better if they are really toasty. Socks sometimes make a big difference, and they both get an extra light blanket when we go to bed.

Kitty, thank you, I do try to give advice to people who need it & not shout/rant at people!

Does he sleep with blankets or sleeping bag?...Special cuddly toy/muslin?

he has his 'sleep cow' he holds as hes going to sleep.as for being warm,our house is freezing so he has vest pjs or babygrow,either fleece sleepsuit or grobag,baby duvet and sometimes extra blanket on top.his back(i remember being told withdd that checking hands etc wasnt good indication of temp,but his hands are warm too) feels warm,not to hot or too cold.

hi there

sounds like he needs to learn to sleep on his own - thru whichever method YOU feel comfortable with. Babies constantly wake up and if we are always there to put them back to sleep they never learn.

If you wanna get away from the rantings, you could join the sleep if for the weak thread - it's more of a support thread.

lots of love x

Kitty choose a method you're comfortable with & go with it, be very consistent (even when your falling off your feet with tiredness) & hopefully it'll pay off.

Crossed fingers for you & your ds!

thankyou both!will let you know what happens!just realised why dont they have tired emotion on mn,would be used lots!

How are you today Kittypants? [sick,tired emoticon]

fine thankyou,still tired but from sleeping in cold tent rather than baby tired!.ds stayed in with dh while i took older 2 outside!apparently ds was up 6 times(dh made most of it by handing him over at 7am and going back to sleep for a bit!).we're camping again tonight so am leaving taking away bottle till tomorrow night.thankyou for asking