Pick up put dow - Looking for tips based on experience.

[Geelian]

Hi all,

There is a lot of information online on the Pick up put down method to sleep training a baby but nor that much Info from people who had experienced it.

And so i was wondering if some of you tried it and might have some answers to my questions from going through the same thing.
I started today but only for naps, baby wakes 3 times a night and is put to sleep by breastfeeding him, not strong enough to do the PU/PD method throughout the night, has anyone tried this? I mean, just doing it with the naps?

Ir took me 30 min to get him to sleep a 2 hour nap but most of the time was with histerical screaming, is this normal?

Thanks all

Also, i know we're not supposed to use a pacifier while doing this sleep training but my baby screams histerical for a long long time and the minute i out the pacifier e calms down and i remove it immidiatly once he calms down, the pacifier doesn't stay on his mouth more than 3 seconds...is it still a no-no even when used like this? Is this such a bad thing for the first days?

How old it baby? Pacifier (dummy) is an excellent tool of comfort for a baby - there is no reason to not use it. Sounds like baby is finding it very traumatic to be honest if screaming hysterically.

Ah yes, of course I need to share his age :) 5 and a half months.

I know the pacifier is a great tranquilizer but the "rules" of the pick up put down sleep training method (Tracy Hogg) sort of forbid it.

@riddles26 has direct experience with a 5.5 month old.

How old is your baby?
Have you considered any gentler methods?

The dummy is the simplest, easiest and most gentle sleep training tool. Dummies are AMAZING. I wouldnt be restrictive with dummy use - let baby use and access that comfort freely at all and every sleep time. You then have a ready-made, very portable and simple sleep trigger without any upset or distress.

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the "rules" of the pick up put down sleep training method (Tracy Hogg) sort of forbid it.

It is worth considering, given dummies are so easy, gentle and simple why do most of the (commercial led) authors don't recommend using one.

How many books would "It's dead easy, use a dummy from birth" sell?

It is worth considering that there is a commercial and marketing sub-text to all of the authors in the field. This needs to be maintained so that the cash-cow continues.

Tgia is unrelated to the PUPD nethod which you want to use, just something to think about. It might be that if you used a dummy for comfort, you wouldn't need to sleep train.

I find it bizarre that anyone would suggest forbidding a dummy but then I haven't read the book like FATE says I would just go with it to be honest! Baby needs SOME comfort to get to sleep. The problem with all those books is it's not a one size fits all, babies are all different. Some take to PUPD really well and others, like your little lad by the sounds of things, just find it far too distressing.

I used PU/PU with a sleep consultant when my daughter was exactly the same age. She never took to a dummy to start with so we didn't discuss dummy use with the consultant and I can't comment on that part.

My daughter also used to fall asleep easily by me feeding her to sleep at night and I had exactly the same intentions as you - to sleep train her for naps. However, I learnt that it isn't possible to teach a baby to fall asleep on their own during the day but feed to sleep at night. Pressure to sleep is greatest in the evening so thats when you want to begin your intervention and get them to fall asleep via PU/PD. For every night wake, you also need to use the same technique to get them to fall asleep -however, they do also need some feeds in the night if breastfed so my consultant and I worked on a minimum interval after which I would feed her. We also used the technique for all naps.

We looked at sleep environment and sleep signals so we followed the same routine every evening plus had a consistent nap routine. She is always put to sleep in her cot if at home and white noise used consistently. If napping on the move, I still play white noise so she understands I want her to nap.

She took to it really well and we had minimal protests or tears during that time. I just had a look at my logs from that time and whilst we had periods of her being awake for 30mins-1hour, we definitely didn't have hysterical screaming for anywhere near that duration.

I dont think the technique is too distressing for your son but its a case of applying it consistently for all sleeps that is your downfall. Please don't feel bad when I say that - I tried to do it on my own too just like you are, and I had similar problems. Doing it with a professional made all the difference for me.