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Great routine wrecked by holiday. Help!!

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FlyingFordAnglia · 21/08/2017 07:55

DS2 is 13 months. We had a nice routine of naps, self settling with white noise and sleeping through the night.
Just got back from 2 week holiday and it's all gone wrong!! He will still nap during the day and we've had to go back to basics with self settling, especially at bedtime. But he just won't sleep through.
He wakes screaming at around 12 to 1am, so I'll put the white noise back on which sometimes works. However he'll then wake again maybe 3am, white noise doesn't work at this point. Mostly the only thing that gets him back to sleep is a bottle.
I think he's been so used to sleeping next to me in the travel cot, he wakes alone and doesn't like it. He's become extremely clingy to me lately, won't let me walk out of a room etc so not sure if this is just part of the phase.
DH wants to let him cry it out but I'm dead set against this - I feel it would just make the clingyness worse when he needs me in the night and I don't come.
Any ideas? Thanks.

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FATEdestiny · 21/08/2017 08:26

I would keep white noise going all night, its purpose is to drown out background noise that might wake baby up, so avoiding actually waking. That can't happen if it's not on all the time.

We use static desk fans for white nouse. The air movement is also relaxing.

Aside from that, I'd just give him some time and patience. This isn't an age when babies will deal with routine changes well and a holiday is likely a complete routine change.

It will just need consistancy and time to get back. I would sit by the cot reassuring him without picking up. It might take a few weeks to get back to quick, easy settling. Then gradually move further away from the cot.

FlyingFordAnglia · 21/08/2017 16:05

Thanks for your reply. I have the Ewan dream sheep so will download an app on my phone to keep it going all night.
And yes, I thought it would be patience with no quick fix unfortunately. Too bad it coincides with being back at work Sad.

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LapinR0se · 21/08/2017 16:11

What times are his naps now?

FlyingFordAnglia · 21/08/2017 19:36

@LapinR0se he'll nap after breakfast about 9am only for 30 mins or so and after lunch maybe 1pm for an hour. Problem is im at work now so my mum looks after him and doesn't quite recognise sleep cues yet so might not stick to these all the time. Bedtime is around 7:30 if I can stretch it on but he is really tired by this point. I've moved everything earlier tonight - dinner at 4pm, bath at 6pm so I had time to give him some porridge. Trying to rule out hunger too.

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LapinR0se · 21/08/2017 20:51

Ok he's not sleeping enough in the day so he'll be very overtired hence waking in the night.
He needs a short nap between 9 and 10 (20 mins and you are looking to drop this completely by 14-16 months) and then a long nap between 12 and 3 which should be around 2 to 2.5 hrs long.
Then bedtime absolute latest 7pm.
If he gets much less sleep than this he'll be in an overtired cycle and you'll get night waking and/or early morning waking.

FlyingFordAnglia · 21/08/2017 20:55

Thanks for that info. How do you get them to sleep so long in the afternoon? Just keep settling them back off again? Trouble is when he wakes from a nap, he's awake, it would be unlikely I'd manage to get him back off again. Unfortunately I'll have to wait till my days off now (my mum wouldn't be able to instigate this, she's too soft with him!) so on Thursday I'll be starting.

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LapinR0se · 21/08/2017 21:09

Leave him up to 20 mins to see if he goes back to sleep. Most people get them up too quickly. Make sure he is self settling for his nap also.
If he's awake after an hour then it's a 6.30 bedtime but you will get early morning waking so best to persevere with trying to extend the lunchtime nap

FATEdestiny · 21/08/2017 22:16

Was your holiday overseas FlyingFordAnglia? With a time difference? Baby may be dealing with jet lag as well as a complete disruption to routine.

90 minutes daytime sleep really isn't enough though. If you can't extend naps could you add in a third nap? A teatime power nap may help.

For extending the lunchtime nap, have you tried going in and sitting next to him at about 50 minutes into the nap? Then try and resettle baby back to a deep sleep before actually waking up. That could be just placing a hand on baby's chest/back and shushing, maybe patting, dummy insert, whatever works really. The idea is to catch baby when leaving the deep sleep phase, whilst light sleeping, then lull back into deep sleep without actually waking up properly.

LapinR0se · 22/08/2017 06:02

Yes you just reminded me fate - I used to sneak in and turn on white noise as soon as my DD stirred during her lunchtime nap and it normally kept her going at least another sleep cycle if not two

FlyingFordAnglia · 22/08/2017 17:02

Sorry about the delays in replying. No phone allowed at work!! Yes it was abroad but no time difference. To be honest we were so pleased with how he dealt with the heat and late nights, sleeping in his pram and just being transferred to cot when we got back each night, we didn't give coming home a second thought. Slightly better night with only two settles needed. Looking forward to Thursday when I can try the napping tips to see if that makes a difference.

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Armo24 · 27/04/2025 11:20

FlyingFordAnglia · 21/08/2017 07:55

DS2 is 13 months. We had a nice routine of naps, self settling with white noise and sleeping through the night.
Just got back from 2 week holiday and it's all gone wrong!! He will still nap during the day and we've had to go back to basics with self settling, especially at bedtime. But he just won't sleep through.
He wakes screaming at around 12 to 1am, so I'll put the white noise back on which sometimes works. However he'll then wake again maybe 3am, white noise doesn't work at this point. Mostly the only thing that gets him back to sleep is a bottle.
I think he's been so used to sleeping next to me in the travel cot, he wakes alone and doesn't like it. He's become extremely clingy to me lately, won't let me walk out of a room etc so not sure if this is just part of the phase.
DH wants to let him cry it out but I'm dead set against this - I feel it would just make the clingyness worse when he needs me in the night and I don't come.
Any ideas? Thanks.

I know this is an old thread but was wondering what helped, if you’re still on here? Having a similar problem with my 11 month old now - she was a good sleeper and would happily settle to sleep on her own in her cot. Post holiday she’s screaming and fighting every nap and bedtime.

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