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Is my 4 month overtired?!!!

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charlie13032017 · 09/07/2017 20:58

Right, my 4 month LB has about 4/5 naps a day (only half an hour) and tends to wake up crying :( he's grumpy all day too. I heard about 4 month sleep regression but not sure whether it's that or what's going on.
Is he overtired?
Am I doing something wrong?
He can't settle himself back to sleep either, sometimes I can offer him boob and he'll fall back asleep on me (sometimes)
And I putting him to bed to late (9pm waking at 6am)
Just want him to be happy during the day, really need some advice/support :(

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FATEdestiny · 09/07/2017 21:52

Is he be sleeping all the way through from 9pm to 6am without waking? That is an excellent stretch of sleep!

For daytime napping instead of focusing on nap length, focus on awake time - the time between waking from one nap and going to sleep the next one. At this age awake time wants to be no more than 90 minutes, closer to 60 minutes might be better.

They usually don't resettle back to sleep after a nap. 30-45 minute naps are absolutely normal at this stage. By sol means try to catch baby just as they enter the light sleeping phase and try to lull back into a deep sleep without waking. But don't expect it to always be successful. Having naps in something that moves can be helpful for extending short naps in this stage.

FTM85 · 09/07/2017 23:28

How do you get him to sleep Charlie? Nap length sounds ok but waking up crying...he could just be crying because he has realised you're not there (if he is in a cot in another room). They're still yet to understand that when we go we come back! As for being grumpy all day afterward, what I tend to do is feed my little one to sleep for a nap and if I do think it hasn't been very long I tend to quickly feed her again and if she's still tired she will drop back off. Also, a darkish room and white noise have helped also with a little red light sleep toy, all of these thing tend to indicate to her sleepy time and seem to encourage drowsiness (after slee cues).

There are some great white noise apps, we is rain :) x

charlie13032017 · 10/07/2017 08:41

FATEdestiny he some nights he'll sleep until 5 and then back down for an hour and sometimes he'll wake up at 3.
He tends to fight nap time, I usually try put him down within an hour and 15 minutes but sometimes that doesn't help. I'll even put him down when showing he's tired (first yawn, rubbing eyes) but he tends to fight it and cry. I'm debating whether I should make bedtime earlier or something. He's just grumpy all day, I haven't had a giggle for about a week now!

FTM85 putting him on my breast seems to make him fall asleep and sometimes when he wakes up early I'll put him back on breast and he'll fall back asleep. I've been trying to stop because mum says he's 'relying' on it. (Ftm and just turnt 20, so I feel abit useless)

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FTM85 · 10/07/2017 10:42

He won't rely on it forever though Smile do what is easiest for you. I recommend downloading an app called the wonder weeks it explains when babies are going through a fussy/grumpy period and growth spurts. Have a look it might explain a lot! These things never last forever I'm sure it will pass. However I would say wake time for a 4 month old is closer to 1.5/2 hrs xx

FATEdestiny · 10/07/2017 13:42

mum says he's 'relying' on it

He has to rely on something to get him to sleep. I guess what your mum is saying is that the something he's relying on is your breast. That's not a problem, if you're fine with it. You could consider a dummy instead?

Some tried and tested ways to help baby sleep:

  • dummy
  • breastfeed to sleep
  • cuddle in your arms
  • cosleep
  • bouncing in the bouncy chair
  • pushchair walk
  • car journey
  • swaddled and dummy (if swaddled when younger)

There'll be loads more. They basically all revolve around things babies naturally find comforting
• sucking
• rhthymic movement
• feeling enclosed, secure and safe

He tends to fight nap time, I usually try put him down within an hour and 15 minutes but sometimes that doesn't help

That's a reasonable awake time. The key is to be relentless about it. When you know baby is ready for a nap, keep going until the nap happens.

charlie13032017 · 10/07/2017 20:42

FTM85 yeah, I'm going to download that now actually. Thank you!

FATEdestiny I just didn't know whether nursing him to sleep was bad, as a few of my friends said it to (they do bottle feed though)
My LB won't take a dummy either (Anything plastic really). I'm fine with nursing him to sleep, I've just heard I need to put him down drowsy and let him learn to fall asleep by himself, but that really doesn't happen. He does sometimes nap in a bouncer or swing (but like I said, 30 minutes, maybe 45) just not sure whether this is long enough as sometimes he wakes up crying and really grumpy all day :( feel like someone's replaced my baby.
He does chew his fingers a lot and like to chew on mine and bite. Not sure whether it could be teething but I also don't know whether he's too young for that either (feel so useless)

(Sorry about late reply. Really hectic day)

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