******* kiskidee *******

[WriggleJiggle]

You are an absolute star.

Thanks for your ideas - It took 3 weeks of gradually changing things and I now have a little wriggler who can go back to sleep on her own during the night.

She now wakes at 6am each morning but I don't care. BECAUSE I'M GETTING A FULL NIGHTS SLEEP !

Now to start reading up on how to achieve day time naps ...

tell us how you did it......(please!)

ahhh.

[takes a bow][lump in throat]

was it the link from dr jay gould that made things work? let me know how you did it!!

Yes please let us know!

bump!

kiskidee what on earth did you do!!!!help me too!

and me!!!

thought i might find you ladies here!!!! I love kiskadee

here is the thread where i last spoke to Wiggle Jiggle.

You should click on the links that i have one there.

i have another link i would like to add but i'm a bit busy till later.

Bampa, I know, we're sleep seeking sluts all of us. LOL. Could anyone get the link to work? Didn't work for me. (I love Kiskadee too and I love the way she woops ass on the CC threads.

link works for me but just in the door so haven't had time to read it all yet. I love how kiskidee kicks ass too. kiskidee if you're listening your passion and belief in your convictions is to be admired

"I love Kiskadee too and I love the way she woops ass on the CC threads."

giggle takes another bow

the links work, gingerninja. love the name by the way. try later.

i will add a few more later. i am still reading a really long informative article but i am still at work, [skiving on MN at the mo.]

Kiskidee is my munchkin's hero .

Basically I just followed the instructions on the link, but I stretched out the time scale a bit because I thounght it would work better like that.

Roughly I dd this
Week 1 - b/f feed dd as often as she wakes, like usual, but put her back down in her cot wide awake. If she fell asleep when feeding I used to walk around holding her sitting up and talking to her to make sure she was wide awake.

Week 2 - when she woke I offered her a beaker of milk and held her, but didn't leave her bedroom. I offered milk because it felt mean not to, and I figured if it was actual hunger rather than comfort feeding she would drink.
Sometimes she had a long drink, more often she just pushed it away. Oh, and no matter how much of cuddle I gave her, I made sure she was awake when putting her down.

Week 3 - The hardest week - when she woke and cried I just went in and shhhh-ed her. At the start of the week I had to lie her down each time. I spent up to an hour each night just sitting by her cot with my hand on her. It sort of comforted her, but also it meant she couldn't wriggled and wind herself up into a state.
By the end of the week I was still going in and saying shhhh, but I didn't have to lie her down, and by the very end I was calming her back down from the doorway without going into her room. It worked better by then if she could only hear me and not see me.

Now just to really boast ...

Last night she went to bed at 7pm. I heard her this morning at 5am, she cried for 2 minutes then went to sleep. She work at 6am then went back to sleep, and at 7.45am she woke up and chatted away to her teddies until 8am when I got up.

WJ how old is your lo?

i LOVE a happy ending!!! have looked at the links (thanks kiskidee!) and wj, that sounds like a 'routine' for want of a better word, that i could handle (emotionally and mentally i mean...i don't like crying )

My little one has just turned 11 months, so was just gone 10 months when I started.

It was in every sense a 'routine', I felt I really needed to have firm rules for myself, otherwise I'd dither and worry. I did spend ages and ages beforehand reading all the sleep threads and trying to weigh up the pros and cons of each.

I wanted to have something with clear targets, and that was easy for me in my sleep deprived state to understand. I'm not good at listening to crying babies, and I also wanted her to know that I would always give her milk if she was hungry, and be there if she was upset.

I saw it as a countdown to gradually reducing the amount of attention she got from me, but so slowly she didn't really seem to notice, so wasn't upset by it. It definately took a week at a time though, after 3/4 days she wouldn't have been ready to move on to the next step.

wj - have printed both versions out (Dr J doodah and Dr WJ!) and will look at them soon. may your success continue and serve as inspiration for us all

Thanks soooo much for the articles. My lo is nearly 9 months and as I am going back to work at 12 months I might give it a go before he is 12 months. Sounds honest advice (ie the crying bit) but positive.