i'm sick of seeing 5am!

[canella]

Can i have some help please? i think i've tried everything but my ds2 (nearly 7 months) is still waking every morning at 5am - i really dont want to be awake at that time!
He's not waking up crying - just having a big chat with himself but he's in a room with his big brother (2.5) so i dont want him to wake up so i end up bringing him downstairs and lying with him in my arms. |He'll quite happily go back to sleep then - this morning he only woke back up at 7!!!
So since he's my 3rd child i was deluded ionto thinking i could solve this myself! so we've tried giving him a dream feed at 10.30, putting a light jumper on him in case he was cold & letting him have less sleep in the day but nothings worked!
He's not got any problems with sleep otherwise - we just put him in his cot, in his sleeping bag with his dummy in and then leave - he never needs settling. And he's eating/drinking well in the day so i'm totally flummoxed (?sp)!!
Any ideas? i'm going back to work in 5 weeks - cant imagine getting through the day if i've been up since 5!!

I am sure you have tried the blackout blinds etc so perhaps you can console yourself the by the time you return to work DS will be waking an hour later because the clocks change soon?
Also - try just going in and giving him a quiet cuddle and put him back down, difficult with another lo in the room but it might be worth it for a day or two just to see if it works.

Does big brother wake up if you leave them to it? Or are you just worried that might happen? A friend of mine has three children who share a room and they mostly just sleep through whatever the others are up to (unless it gets particularly bad - like if the baby is ill and constntly crying) Maybe big brother would get used to his babbling within a couple of nights.

It seems ideally you'd leave DS2 in bed because he will go back to sleep - just has a period of lighter sleep around 5am.

Feel free to tell me I'm living in cloud cuckoo land.

Mine is 19 months and is still booby feeding every morning at 5am sometimes he goes back down but mainly not even if he does he is up before 7am again anyway - you are not alone!

they've got blackout blinds but its still dark at that time si its not light thats waking him! he has woken ds1 with his babbling - he's an early riser but it always after 6 - it always seems better when the clock says 6 something! i am optimistic about the clocks going forward! think i might just leave him tomorrow morning and if he wakes ds1 up then ds1 can just come in with us!wonder whether ds2 has just got used to me lifting & cuddling him at that time? or is he too young for such associations?

I have read that they can form habits. I am currently trying to stop my DD waking at night after 45 minutes, we have had some success now she is starting to eat solids so although I was told by every HV in the area that it was habit I think she was hungry - glad I always fed her. Brings me to my point - could he be hungry? Thirsty? Cold etc. My house keeps the heat quite well until 5 or 6am, it is always coldest then. Or perhaps his nappy is just full by then?
Again - it may be obvious but you never know!

Well another eary rise this morn - 4.47am!!!!! Tried to leave him for a bit but he woke ds1 up so he's been up since just after 5am too! (thankfully he still has a nap in the day!
Ruth2007 - i think his nappy might be very wet by that time - i change it right before i put him down at 7pm but then he still has a 4oz dream feed so its probably not the most comfortable thing to lie on! He was so awake this morn that i changed it to see if he would go back over on his own but i still had to cuddle him back to sleep and the second i put him down he woke back up. The fact that he goes back to sleep makes me think that he's not desperately hungry - dont think he would go back over if that was the case.
Can you tell i'm getting desperate to solve this? I'm pinning my hopes on the clocks going forward and him crawling so he'll be more tired but thats still a while off - he's not even sitting for long at the minute!
Going to try putting him back in a light jumper and mittens tonight - worth a try!

7pm-5am is a good stretch for a baby of his age - a lot of people assume that all babies should sleep 12 hours at night just because some do, but 10 hours is plenty for a lot of them (mine included). I suggest that if you want him to sleep until 6 then don't out him down until 8pm.