One year old's 12 hour sleep and food?

[Winehound84]

My daughter is 12 months and she has been properly sleeping through from more or less 7 months. We aim to have her sleep 7:30 to 7:30 but she often wakes up around 6-6:30 screams for up to 10 minutes and falls asleep again until 7:15-7:30, which is very annoying cause it means I don't really sleep anymore. Up until last week she has been breastfed 4 times, now 3 plus 3 times solids and snacks. Since pretty much forever she has been RAGING through her morning nappy change until she is on the boob. Right after she turns into an angel. Her dinner is at 5:30 pm and I give her boob at 7:15 pm or so.. but I dont think I have much in the evening, so since she wakes up early and rages in the morning, my question is: IS SHE HUNGRY?? How much milk do your one year olds drink before bed and what time is their dinner? How long do they sleep??

OP - people are posting based on their experiences with their babies. We are not suggesting that you change your expectations because it's fun to wake up at 4:30 or 5:00. But babies can't be controlled like robots just because you would prefer to sleep until 07:00 or whatever.

Your baby sleeps for 11 hours. She is not a bad sleeper. In my experience and in the experience of all my friends who have had babies, it is very unusual at 12 months for the parents to have an evening to themselves, an uninterrupted night's sleep and to wake at a tolerable time in the morning. One or more of these is going to give - you have two working well for you - your evenings and your night's sleep!

My DCs are way past the baby stage now. But I remember the hell that was sleep deprivation. I returned to work when my eldest was 10 months and I remember trying to focus when one particularly trying night she had woken 7 times in one hour. This is not competitive sleep deprivation, I am not posting this out of some weird 'my baby slept worse than yours' thing but you need to get some perspective.

There's a woman in my team at work now with a 20 month old who is awake for hours every night.

I am grateful that at 10 and 8 years old my DCs both sleep very well and even have a bit of a lie-in on weekends. Some of their friends still get up at 5am.

My lo is now nearly 17 months. He slept through since he was 3 months. When he was 1 he had 3 meals a day- toast or cereal for breakfast between 9.30-10, usually sandwich for lunch between 12-12.30 and a hot meal for dinner between 5-6. He also had 2 bottles of toddler formula (he was exclusively formula fed from birth), he had 6-8oz per bottle.
He would be in bed between 7-7.30pm, and sometimes wouldn't wake until 9, but usually between 8-&.30.

7.30 til 6 is perfect why not get her up instead of trying to get her back to sleep

A friend of my daughters complained bitterly about his one year old not sleeping well. My daughter had a poor sleeper too and asked what time the little boy slept until.
"He goes to bed at 6.30pm after a full bottle but wakes at 6.00am. We want him to sleep til 7.30 am but he just won't do it"
My dd, who was on her knees from sleep deprivation, sarcastically said "How tiring"
The friend replied "It is, you have no idea. He's even sleeping less during the day too, he used to have two 90 minute naps but he only naps for an hour twice a day" Dd 😠

My grandson was four when he slept right through the night. They tried everything written in the Getting your baby to sleep handbook: gradual withdrawal, controlled crying, putting him back into bed up to 40 times a night. We had a breakthrough when he slept at grandmas house , I put him into our spare double bed and he slept all through the night, he went home the following day and told his mummy that he liked the big bed and he wanted to sleep in the big bed at his house. He claimed their spare bed as his own.
He's now six and goes to bed at 7.00 pm. Sleeps until around 6.46 am. He hates the dark so has a nightlight.
His toddler sister is the complete opposite, she's in her cot at 6.30 after a bottle of Oat milk (cmpa) and rarely wakes through the night, unless she's not well, she wakes at 5.30am. Rarely naps during the day and keeps us entertained.
You don't know how fortunate you are op.

Irritating that you would imply my son is abnormal for waking at 5. It's actually very common if you Google it. Thank your lucky stars for your good sleeper and stop moaning l.

Is the OP for real? Surely not

Not sure why you posted OP when you clearly know better than everyone else. Ds wakes between 4.30 and 5.30 every day. Most often before 5, what would you suggest as I'd love him to sleep til 6.30-7.30?

Hi Wine. I agree with you- it is perfectly
possible for 1 year olds to sleep 12 hours and getting up at 4-5am isn't the norm. If your baby does hat, there are ways you can adjust their patterns by sleep training, if you want to. If you don't want to, that's fine, but you don't have to accept it either.
My 1 year old DD has dinner at 4.30pm, drinks 8oz whole milk at 6.30pm, in bed from 7pm- 7.45am. She sometimes makes noise in the night (usually around 10pm) but goes back to sleep. She's then awake anytime from 6.30am but usually not until after 7am. We get her up at 7.45am (she's sometime still asleep at 7.45am, sometimes not- she chats and plays happily in her cot until we get her up). She then drinks 4oz whole milk at 7.45am.
She has 2 naps during the day, of around 1 hour each on average.
If you could switch her breastfeed before bed to whole milk, she might sleep through a bit longer. You could then make up the breast feed at some other point during the day.

All research suggests there is a massive spectrum of "normal" when it comes to babies and sleep, and night feeds/wakings, especially breastfed babies. It IS normal for them to wake up at 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 am. And you just get on with it. Babies don't much care if getting up early is ruining your day I find.

My DD is 16 mo, goes to sleep at about 8, wakes at about 7, wakes up in the night several times for milk, and often has milk as soon as she wakes for the day. Sometimes she is hard to settle in the night, and I'm for an hour or so with her. Sometimes she wakes at 5.30, sometimes she sleeps until 8.30. All totally normal behaviour for a child that age.

What emzdisco said is completely true

God the smugness is unbearable. Adults all have different sleep needs and patterns so I don't know why babies should all be the same. Especially as they all develop differently, they don't all crawl, walk, talk, teeth at the same time, why should they all sleep the same amount? Wake up at the exact same time? Parents who think they've done some magical task cos their children sleep through are the WORST.

Complaining that your baby sleeps from 7.30-6.30 is just insane TBH.

Im sorry guys this thread took this interesting turn. I wanted to know if people whose babies sleep BETTER than mine feed their baby more before sleep. I do give her supper btw at 5:30 cause someone was suggesting I feed her supper. I was wondering if more milk is given maybe or supper is closer to bedtime etc etc. I am sorry for people whose baby wakes up every half an hour or doesnt sleep until the age of 7, but even more I am sorry for those babies and children because their parents failed to create good sleeping habits. Again I say it is NOT normal and one needs to take action and the later you do it the harder it gets. It is parents' fault and not child's that they dont sleep. I live in London where 99% of mothers I know had maternity nurses (I didnt) and 100% of those children slept through the night if not by 3 months for sure by 6 months. It is all about routine, positive sleep associations and sometimes some (or a lot) of crying out. If it is not for you - fair enough, but it is not me who needs a reality check..

Well if you're such an expert WHY ARE YOU HERE?

6-6:30 screams for up to 10 minutes and falls asleep again until 7:15-7:30, which is very annoying cause it means I don't really sleep anymore

Stops being so lazy and get up, that's my advice, HTH.

My five year olds wake between 5and 6, a vast improvement from 4-5.

I feel sorry for your baby Wine. I don't know why you haven't sorted this sleep problem out sooner. Poor baby must be exhausted.

Wow! I never post but this is amazing....my Dd1 always slept 12 hours from 6 months. Dd2 didn't sleep through till she was three. But clearly that was my fault even though my first child slept really well? Thanks OP what a lightning bolt.

OP stop being such a twat.

ODFOD

I feel so sorry for the OP's daughter. She is going to get a lot of grief every time she fails to reach the OP's idea of normal. FWIW I have two children and have raised them the same. One is four and still wakes frequently during the night, the other is 13 months and sleeps 12 hours a night. Every child is different and if you keep trying to make your daughter "normal" you are going to be very disappointed.

99 percent of mothers have maternity nurses? Maybe in your part of London love but not in mine .

Good luck OP. And more importantly, I wish your DD well.

Fucking hell! Save your sympathy.

I know it's normal for babies to wake in the night, to wake at inconvenient times. All research says so. I was expecting it when I decided to have a child. Yes I'm a bit tired on occasion, but I am happy, so is my daughter. She does just what she is supppsed to. And I haven't had to "train" her. She doesn't need to learn that her cries will be ignored. That's not something she will ever have to learn.

At 12 months , I was told they go through a sleep regression, growth stage. Could this be it? My LO is 12 months and although by no means perfect sleeper, but was sleeping 12hrs and now waking 4 or 5am starving hungry. She has one less breast feed than OP and is also a cow milk refused. I try and make dinner 5.15 which plenty of carb, she then has a little something with us about half 6 then milk at half 7, asleep mostly by 8.

But you're asking if your baby is hungry in the morning? Yes, yes she is. Just feed her. Jeez. Doesn't take a genius.

My daughter is 16 months, tea at 5.30-6, bed at 7.30 (no milk), generally sleeps until 6/6.30 like yours.
Sometimes she cries out like yours OP & goes back over, more often than not wakes up, and not in a fantastic mood. I feel she'd benefit from an extra 45 mins sleep but it just doesn't seem to happen.
Anyway- she can be quite hard to entertain until breakfast at 7 (no milk anymore, she was EBF but self weaned at 1year) and then she's fine.
So I can only imagine she's hungry like your thinking your daughter is.
No answers for you just wanted to be a bit supportive